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Why Is There Such Strong Hatred for the Church?
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 05-22-18 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 05/24/2018 7:49:40 AM PDT by Salvation

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To: Salvation

it is all about sex and abortion.


21 posted on 05/24/2018 8:38:50 AM PDT by bk1000 (I stand with Trump)
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To: Salvation

Please look up the facts.

For the conservation of resources, please point FRiends to the facts instead.


22 posted on 05/24/2018 8:39:45 AM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: Chauncey Gardiner

Not taking a stand on anything? How about abortion and euthanasia to begin with!


23 posted on 05/24/2018 8:59:09 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: miss marmelstein

I did say “much of anything” - and those two issues are good examples where the church has been successful... thank you.


24 posted on 05/24/2018 9:02:17 AM PDT by Chauncey Gardiner
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To: Salvation

I think #3 is the big one. Since we are made in the image of God, we have an innate knowledge of morality. Christian acknowledgement of right and wrong threatens their identity and ability to do what they know is wrong without guilt.


25 posted on 05/24/2018 9:10:39 AM PDT by tnlibertarian
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To: thoughtomator
When the BODY OF BELIEVERS, not institution OF catholic church, is conflated with The Catholic Church (purposely by the leadership and lay apologists of Catholicism, confusing as if the same thing), any stain that institution may incur is then transferred to the body of believers (the True Church of Jesus The Christ) thus maligning the Grace of God in Christ.

The same is true of the Jimmy Swaggart or Creflo Dollar, Joel Osteen, Joyce Myer or Kenneth Copeland stains. This is not just a Catholic error, and that tells us who is the father of these lies and degenerations.

26 posted on 05/24/2018 9:11:11 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: thoughtomator

It is sad that so many choose to be blinded to the Truth of the Faith and Doctrine of the Church, by the sinful behavior of men.

If you insist on having Saints on earth to follow, before confessing your Faith in Christ, you will be lost.


27 posted on 05/24/2018 9:30:10 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: Salvation

“Why is there so much hatred for the church?”

Liberals. They always want to take a position opposite of Christianity, whether it’s support for slavery, support for abortion, or support for perverted marriages.


28 posted on 05/24/2018 9:31:11 AM PDT by libertylover (If people come here legally, they're immigrants; if they come here illegally, they're invaders.)
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To: Salvation
We could just as easily title this "Why Is There Such Strong Hatred for President Trump?"

It's pretty much the same people doing the hating. You know, the ones who pretend to be tolerant and all about multiculturalism.

29 posted on 05/24/2018 9:41:58 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: tnlibertarian
I think #3 is the big one. Since we are made in the image of God, we have an innate knowledge of morality. Christian acknowledgement of right and wrong threatens their identity and ability to do what they know is wrong without guilt

I think you are correct but you do not go far enough.

Why does the world hate Christianity?

Because our very existence as Christians convicts them of their chosen sins. The Holy Spirit within us cannot be silenced and our very presence in their lives forces them to confront their own evil. A confrontation that they desperately want to avoid.

They do not hate the Catholic church because it is Catholic (although with the present pope it is becoming less Catholic and less Christian each day). They hate the Catholic church because it is a church made up of mostly Christians.

If the organized church (all Christian denominations) ceased to exist, this reaction from the world would be exactly the same. The world hates Christians because Christians serve as a testimony to their own fallen state.

This also explains why no other religion (even the satanic death cult known as islam) is hated as Christianity is. A moslem does not force the world to confront their own evil. Moslems are just as lost and evil as they are and so they pose no threat. Moslems do not have the Holy Spirit in them convicting the sinners of their sins. Any made up religion will be accepted.

Christianity is hated because Christianity is true.

31 posted on 05/24/2018 9:54:48 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: John O

Another reason FR needs a like button.

This was the same reason Jesus was hated by the Pharisees. His presence highlighted their hypocrisy. Darkness hates the light.


32 posted on 05/24/2018 10:03:19 AM PDT by tnlibertarian
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To: Salvation
"the Church" is all who recognize Christ as Lord and Savior - not a specific religion....

That said, the opening about being persecuted because we worship Jesus holds true as part of the Word of God - He told us much of what would happen and we can see it unfolding.

33 posted on 05/24/2018 10:08:22 AM PDT by trebb (I stopped picking on the mentally ill hypocrite<i> Yet anoths who pose as conservatives...mostly ;-})
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To: Salvation
BTW, there is more abuse among non-Catholic clergy than among priests. Please look up the facts.

You continue to post this as if to excuse the crisis within the Roman Catholic Church over this issue.

To accurately evaluate this each denomination needs to broken out and evaluated.

No statistician would allow you to group Roman Catholic in one bucket and all other in another bucket to due an analysis.

34 posted on 05/24/2018 10:17:37 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Salvation
Your thoughts?

The message from the msgr is at odds with the messages from the apparitions Roman Catholics call Mary.

The apparitions claim the devil is fighting against Mary and that only Mary can defeat Satan.

All of that flies in the face of what the msgr has posted and what is seen in the New Testament.

Roman Catholicism cannot square the two away no matter how much they try.

35 posted on 05/24/2018 10:19:48 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Salvation
Australian archbishop guilty of covering up sex child abuse

Title of another thread but pertaining to your post.

BTW, there is more abuse among non-Catholic clergy than among priests. Please look up the facts.

36 posted on 05/24/2018 10:21:47 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Salvation
One of the main benefits of Western Judeo/Christian culture is it limits the power of psychopaths to infiltrate a counties power structure... and limits that's groups power to hurt individuals. Rules created over thousands of years protect all of us...
37 posted on 05/24/2018 10:28:40 AM PDT by GOPJ (An Islamist, a Communist and a traitor walk into a bar.Barkeep says 'what can I get you Mr. Brennan')
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To: Salvation

You mean “A church”? Catholicism is a denomination — A church. Not THE church.


38 posted on 05/24/2018 10:39:07 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Have an A-1 day.)
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To: MHGinTN
When the BODY OF BELIEVERS, not institution OF catholic church, is conflated with The Catholic Church (purposely by the leadership and lay apologists of Catholicism, confusing as if the same thing),

Yes, that bugs me too!

39 posted on 05/24/2018 10:52:14 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (...the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light...)
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To: bk1000

“it is all about sex and abortion.”

100% correct.


40 posted on 05/24/2018 11:06:19 AM PDT by tuffydoodle (A moral wrong cannot be a Civil Right.)
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