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To: daniel1212
Why are you deviating? This is an article by a respected Southern Baptist preacher. Address the article.

For your benefit, I'll just repeat the points raised by Mr. Mohler -- Albert Mohler is the president of Southern Baptist Theological Seminary. This post originally appeared on his blog and has been republished with his permission.

..We thought this was a Roman Catholic problem.

...When people said that evangelicals had a similar crisis coming, it didn’t seem plausible—even to me. I have been president of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary for 25 years. I did not see this coming.

I was wrong. The judgment of God has come.

We cannot blame a requirement of priestly celibacy. We cannot even point to an organized conspiracy of silence within the denominational hierarchy. No, our humiliation comes as a result of an unorganized conspiracy of silence. Sadly, the unorganized nature of our problem may make recovery and correction even more difficult and the silence even more dangerous.

As I recently said with lament to a longtime leader among the more liberal faction that left the SBC, each side has become the fulfillment of what the other side warned. The liberals who left have kept marching to the Left, in theology and moral teaching. The SBC, solidly conservative theologically, has been revealed to be morally compromised.
I would suggest you read this. There are lots of other posts on other topics.
25 posted on 05/24/2018 4:08:57 AM PDT by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: Cronos; daniel1212

“I’ll just repeat the points raised by Mr. Mohler — Albert Mohler is the president of Southern Baptist Theological Seminary”

I’ve never liked Mohler. Maybe now I know why. He’s hyperventilating and caving in to SJW-types who reject the teaching of the Bible:

“22 Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord, 23 because the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church. He is the Savior of the body. 24 Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives are to submit to their husbands in everything. 25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself for her 26 to make her holy, cleansing her with the washing of water by the word. 27 He did this to present the church to himself in splendor, without spot or wrinkle or anything like that, but holy and blameless. 28 In the same way, husbands are to love their wives as their own bodies.” - Ephesians 5

This is not, in any way, some sort of great scandal. This is the MeToo nonsense trying to reject the clear teaching of God, and making up silly excuses to do so.

“We thought this was a Roman Catholic problem.”

Mohler has gone off the deep end. First, sexual misconduct is found in ANY religious organization. There have always been pastors who have engaged in adultery, etc. Very few in the SBC have buggered young boys, but I’m sure it has happened - with 45,000++ preachers!

But what has Paige Patterson done? Used a bad example of counseling in a sermon. Noticing that teen boys find teen girls attractive - and not pretending that old guys do not. He didn’t touch anyone. He isn’t accused of sexual assault or trying to get anyone to go to bed with him. He sure isn’t accused of trying to hide pedophilia in his church.

Mohler needs to get a grip! He is playing into Satan’s hands. Given the sheer numbers of Baptist preachers...some will make mistakes, and some will do evil - as we all do sometimes. But at worst, Paige Patterson has been guilty of giving bad advice. Who hasn’t at some time?

Someone needs to hand Mohler some smelling salts and tell him to grow up. I haven’t seen any accusation against Paige Patterson that merits deep concern, let alone comparison to deliberate concealment of pedophilia and allowing it to continue!


72 posted on 05/24/2018 8:09:02 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: Cronos
There is no deviating. Mohler only alludes to what I said, (surely and sadly there is much, maybe as much, sexual abuse in Prot churches, if not predominantly of the same kind, but the articles does not mention that while Forgotten Study: Abuse in School 100 Times Worse than by Priests), but what you selected as details was "a sermon illustration from years ago included advice that a battered wife remain in the home and the marriage in hope of the conversion of her abusive husband," as if that was such that "an unorganized conspiracy of silence" referred to.

But perhaps you chose this as an indirect means of attacking Protestantism, whatever that may include, rather than a more blatant offensive which might provoke a in-kind response. For which there is plenty of ammo, sadly.

97 posted on 05/25/2018 7:34:09 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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