Posted on 05/16/2018 2:05:50 PM PDT by Coleus
A few years ago, I spoke with a young man preparing to get married. His aunt told him that she thought he and his fiancée were too financially-strapped to have a child, and that it wouldnt be fair to bring up a baby in poverty. Keenly aware of his joblessness and his minuscule bank account, he concluded she was probably right.
The young man and his fiancée were ready to tie the knot in a few months and they expected that she would be at the infertile phase of her cycle around the time of their honeymoon, so they would be able to consummate the marriage while avoiding bringing a child into the world. They agreed they would use Natural Family Planning (NFP) after that to avoid a pregnancy. A few years later when they felt financially secure, he told me, they would have their first child. He admitted, however, that he was conflicted about whether they were really being open to life in their marriage if they were going into it with this kind of forethought and intention of avoiding children.
In marriage, it can certainly be challenging to harmonize spousal love with the responsible transmission of life. Janet Smith and Christopher Kaczor, in an illuminating passage from one of their recent books, acknowledge this challenge and point to the need for a spirit of generosity when it comes to procreation:
Pope John Paul II spoke of responsible parenthood, in which a couple uses practical wisdom, prayer and a spirit of generosity in determining how many children they should have. Some Catholics believe that the Church permits the use of NFP only for reasons that verge on the truly desperate, such as a situation where a pregnancy would threaten a womans life or a family is living in dire poverty. Magisterial documents, however, state that spouses may have physical, psychological, economic or social reasons for needing to limit family size, using several different adjectives to describe those reasons: One can have just reasons, worthy reasons, defensible reasons, serious reasons and weighty reasons. In short, the Magisterium teaches that spouses must have unselfish reasons for using NFP and limiting their family size.
At times, then, our justifications for avoiding a pregnancy may merit further reflection and scrutiny on our part. When it comes to poverty, for example, would our poverty, in the true sense of the word, mean that the child would be malnourished and without warm clothing, or would it simply mean that he or she would forego some of the latest hi-tech gadgets that other children in the neighborhood might be enjoying?
I recall what a father of seven children on a tight budget once told me in a conversation: Honestly, theres always room around the table for one more, and with hand me down clothing we always manage. And my goodness, isnt it a momentous thing to receive that trust of preparing another soul for an eternal destiny with God? His wife pointed out how the older children ended up helping with raising the younger ones, lessening the burdens on mom and dad, and turning it into a team effort.
The ancient Christian teaching on the two-fold purpose of marriage; namely, the procreation and education of children, and the mutual help and sanctification of the spouses, accurately summarizes the inner order of marriage. As the future John Paul II wrote in his great 1960 book Love and Responsibility, radical personal openness to both of these purposes is essential to the success and meaning of any marriage. We should never enter into marriage with active opposition to the very ends for which it exists. If a couple is preparing to embark upon marriage with the immediate intention of avoiding offspring (even if they are using morally acceptable means such as NFP), they perhaps ought to consider delaying the exchange of their vows until they have resolved the various impediments, whether financial, career-related, or personal, that are leading them to be closed to the idea of having children.
I recall hearing about another family that had six children. They didnt have two nickels to rub together. After the father came down with mental illness, the mother had to support the family single-handedly. A clear-thinking woman with an unflinching faith, now elderly and reflecting on her past, she memorably remarked to her neighbor: Ive never seen the Lord send a child without also sending a lunch pail. God, who is the very source of the immortal souls of our children, is a provident God who invites us to examine the heart of our marriages. He invites us to entrust ourselves to him, so that we might be courageous and authentically open to the gift of life he sends us in the midst of the marital embrace.
Rev. Tadeusz Pacholczyk, Ph.D. earned his doctorate in neuroscience from Yale and did post-doctoral work at Harvard. He is a priest of the diocese of Fall River, MA, and serves as the Director of Education at The National Catholic Bioethics Center in Philadelphia. See http://www.ncbcenter.org/
Today, even the wealthy have their token 1 or 2 children, money isn't the issue, it's convenience and time, the same excuse used for abortion.
You know what they call people who practice NFP?
Catholics?
No: Parents!
Certain elements of our society don’t worry about this at all.
This article glosses over the very real and daunting challenges facing the middle class with regard to having a large family. Hand me down clothes and older siblings helping out? Great. What about the enormous monetary costs? I mean c’mon.
Trust in the Lord; he will provide for those who keep his laws.
Yet the very same denomination, the RCC, says Joseph and Mary did not have any children of their own.
Based on the above position of Roman Catholicism, they never should have entered into marriage.
Fortunately, we know the NT tells another story that Joseph and Mary did have kids of their own.
The NT tells nothing of the sort.
Are you sure you want to tell Catholics what to believe?
“The Gospel only speaks of the virginity of the Virgin up to the time of the birth of Jesus Christ. All with reference to Jesus Christ.”Blaise Pascal, Pensees 742 (Proofs of Jesus Christ).
Pascal had a high view of SCRIPTURE.
Fortunately, we know the NT tells another story that Joseph and Mary did have kids of their own.”
The NT tells nothing of the sort.
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Yes, it does.
Well, if you read it the story is clear.
All Im doing is again comparing Roman Catholic sources with Scripture and once again Roman Catholicism comes up wanting.
Are you trying to interpret the Scripture by yourself. YOPIOS style?
Have you ever heard a preacher say “Dear brothers and sisters?”
That’s how the words “brothers and sisters” was used in the New Testament — believers of the same faith — sometimes meaning relatives such as cousins.
Liberals intentionally lie about the cost of having children to discourage the responsible from having them or having very many.
It does NOT cost a quarter million plus to raise a child.
There is a specific word for cousin in the Greek. It is used one time in the NT.
There is a specific word for relatives.
And lastly....context is your key to properly understanding the Scriptures. I know that is a new concept I've introduced to Roman Catholics on these threads....but it is a very, very important one.
Catholics? No: Parents! >>>
from the article
They agreed they would use Natural Family Planning (NFP) after that to avoid a pregnancy. A few years later when they felt financially secure, he told me, they would have their first child. He admitted, however, that he was conflicted about whether they were really being open to life in their marriage if they were going into it with this kind of forethought and intention of avoiding children.
It works if you practice self-control.
and btw, for those who use birth-control pills and other forms of IUD's, abort their children, conception takes place, implantation does not. Then you have to factor in the birth-control pill and breast-cancer link. It's not worth it.
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The presumption that a papist has the slightest desire to understand scripture is usually way off base.
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Interesting pints being brought up.
If Joseph and Mary did marry, then is the rc position that they never consummated? Or that they did, but God sent no more children?
If they didnt consummate that is not a true marriage, even according to rc doctrine right? It could be annulled.
If they were having sex like husbands and wives are generally supposed to, why would God withhold children? Of course He can donas he likes.
Official Roman Catholic dogma is Mary remained a virgin her whole life. Roman Catholics HAVE to believe that in order to be good Roman Catholics.
If they didnt consummate that is not a true marriage, even according to rc doctrine right? It could be annulled.
That's my point...per what is posted in the article Joseph's and Mary's marriage is not a valid marriage in the eyes of Roman Catholicism as Rome says they were not going to have any children of their own and that is the purpose of marriage per Rome.
Roman Catholicism is in a bind on this one...though I doubt they will admit it. Roman Catholics don't like the discussion when these points are raised.
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