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Is Christianity Just Wishful Thinking?
Depths of Pentecost ^ | May 5, 2018 | Philip Cottraux

Posted on 05/06/2018 1:49:30 PM PDT by pcottraux

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-Cherry, Kendra. “Freud and Religion: What Did Freud Believe?” verywellmind.com. Last updated March 26, 2018. Accessed May 5, 2018. https://www.verywellmind.com/freud-religion-2795858

-Lewis, C.S. Mere Christianity. Macmillan Publishing Company. Copyright renewed 1980. First Touchstone Edition, 1996. Page 85.

-Morgan, Timothy. Thank God for Atheists: How the Greatest Skeptics Led Me to Faith. Eugene, Oregon. Harvest House Publishers, 2015, page 157.

1 posted on 05/06/2018 1:49:30 PM PDT by pcottraux
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My people are destroyed from lack of knowledge: Hosea 4:6.

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2 posted on 05/06/2018 1:50:28 PM PDT by pcottraux ( depthsofpentecost.com)
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Ideas on wish fulfillment were among Freud’s more simple minded.


3 posted on 05/06/2018 2:02:37 PM PDT by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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Sigmund apparently didn’t grasp the fact that wish fulfillment works both ways.

His wish was to be his own ruler.


4 posted on 05/06/2018 2:04:04 PM PDT by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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If you pretend God doesn’t exist, you can fulfill your wish to create your own rules.

Commonly, this has to do with rules about sexual behavior.


5 posted on 05/06/2018 2:05:30 PM PDT by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: pcottraux

Allowing a cocain addicted adulterer to ever effect ones faith is a sad state for any human


6 posted on 05/06/2018 2:08:30 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: pcottraux

No.


7 posted on 05/06/2018 2:09:15 PM PDT by Vision (Obama corrupted, sought to weaken and fundamentally change America; he didn't plan on being stopped)
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Freud’s ideology was founded on his premise that God doesn’t exist. From this flawed premise proceeded all his ideas about religion.

Don’t make the mistake of thinking Freud was some brilliant thinker who was able to derive a particular wisdom about God’s existence.

Here’s the Freudian thought process on the matter:

1) I want to make my own rules (the product of Sigmund’s id)

2) If I convince myself God doesn’t exist, I can convince myself God’s moral law doesn’t exist (this occurs in Sigmund’s superego)

3) If God’s moral law doesn’t exist, I can construct my own morality (here Sigmund’s ego receives the integration of his id and his superego)


8 posted on 05/06/2018 2:12:46 PM PDT by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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Meanwhile, Sigmund is lying to himself.


9 posted on 05/06/2018 2:13:45 PM PDT by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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And to top it off, Sigmund stole the idea of id-ego-superego from the Biblical concept of body-mind-spirit.


10 posted on 05/06/2018 2:14:59 PM PDT by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: pcottraux

Please add me to your list


11 posted on 05/06/2018 2:18:55 PM PDT by chesley (What is life but a long dialog with imbeciles? - Pierre Ryckmans)
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What is interesting about "Utopia":

    In 1516, English humanist Sir Thomas More published a book titled Utopia. It compared social and economic conditions in Europe with those of an ideal society on an imaginary island located off the coast of the Americas. More wanted to imply that the perfect conditions on his fictional island could never really exist, so he called it Utopia, a name he created by combining the Greek words ou (meaning "no, not") and topos (meaning "place," a root used in our word topography). The earliest generic use of utopia was for an imaginary and indefinitely remote place. The current use of utopia, referring to an ideal place or society, was inspired by More's description of Utopia's perfection. (https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/utopia)

Utopia then is either an ideal place of perfection or an ideal place that can never possibly exist.

I appreciate your view that the resurrection of Jesus Christ changes everything. St. Paul correctly stated that if there is no resurrection and if we have only hoped in Christ in this life, we are of all men most pitiable, the most miserable (I Cor. 15:19). BUT...now Christ IS risen! The world without Jesus Christ offers nothing but temporary pleasure. Our souls are meant for eternity.

    “What else does this craving, and this helplessness, proclaim but that there was once in man a true happiness, of which all that now remains is the empty print and trace? This he tries in vain to fill with everything around him, seeking in things that are not there the help he cannot find in those that are, though none can help, since this infinite abyss can be filled only with an infinite and immutable object; in other words by God himself” [This is from page 75 of Blaise Pascal’s Pensees (New York; Penguin Books, 1966).]

12 posted on 05/06/2018 2:34:24 PM PDT by boatbums (The Law is a storm which wrecks your hopes of self-salvation, but washes you upon the Rock of Ages.)
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To: pcottraux

Each individual needs to ask themselves whether the risk of it being true is worth taking...


13 posted on 05/06/2018 2:37:37 PM PDT by MortMan (The white board is a remarkable invention.)
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Freud’s conclusion is that ultimately, Christianity is wishful thinking.

The life, death, and resurrection of Jesus is a fact of history.There is no wishful thinking about it.

14 posted on 05/06/2018 2:41:04 PM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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If I were to wish for something, I would wish for something Easier and more Guaranteed. Christianity is neither.


15 posted on 05/06/2018 2:42:35 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: pcottraux

Mere Christianity is a fantastic book.


16 posted on 05/06/2018 2:45:25 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: pcottraux

Thank you. Comments: just because faith can provide comfort in this life or an “answer” to its mortality — does not mean these bebefits are false or illudory, or even mere coping mechanisms. Rather, these results of religious faith may be additional Benefits or even side- effects, if you will, of an underlying true message. The analysis’ logic is flawed by failing to reach or even address this possibility.


17 posted on 05/06/2018 3:09:28 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicans aren't born, they're excreted." -Marcus Tillius Cicero (3 BCE))
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Christianity is guaranteed for the believer in Christ.


18 posted on 05/06/2018 3:50:27 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: pcottraux

My journey to Christ as my Savior.

I was raised by Christian parents but the Bible was never taught or even discussed.

I was raised to figure things out for myself with love and varying degrees of forgiveness.

It was later in life that a personal crisis, and serendipity, Charles Stanley’s sermon collided in my mind.

Suddenly everything made sense and at the same time nothing made sense.

I went to a great Bible Church every week and quickly discovered that my belief required me to “Spread the Word”.

WOW.

I need to do some homework.

I spent the next 4 or 5 years studying. Reading the Bible, reading Christian Apologist, reading and watching countless videos of their debates.

Prior to my “Crises” I had watched and actually bought this 6 VHS tape set of Joseph Campbell on Mythology. Extremely well done with a final conclusion that “I am my own God”. It’s pure Buddhism that never found any traction even before my Re-Birth but became critical in my Affirmation of Christ.

IMHO, it all comes down to Darwinian evolution or Creation.

When I read and listened to the Darwinist, their “Science” and “Reason” didn’t add up. The math alone didn’t add up, never-mind their conclusions about human nature and Free will.

Back to the Buddhist and “Spirituality”.

IMHO, Buddhism is based on the “uncertainty” found in “Theoretical Physics”. A belief in a possibility without certainty.

If Freud demands certainty then he need only look at himself.

I did.

The Darwinist attempt to destroy all meaning of mind. Including their own minds.

The Buddhist/Humanist take the other extreme. There is no right or wrong and in a world of uncertainty everything is possible.

I came to Christ, once again, through the process of elimination.

I wasn’t “Told” what to believe.

I didn’t “Need” anything.

God has Created Man with an extraordinary ability, the ability to consider all the evidence, to thoughtfully self reflect and come to Him by Faith.


19 posted on 05/06/2018 4:01:40 PM PDT by Zeneta
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“Some have taken it as far as to suggest that most of his theories were made up.”

Of course they are “made up”. All theories are made up by someone. Then you test them to see if they are right. That’s how science works.


20 posted on 05/06/2018 4:12:26 PM PDT by Hugin (Conservatism without Nationalism is a fraud.)
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