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| 03-14-18
| Msgr. Charles Pope
Posted on 04/21/2018 9:30:28 AM PDT by Salvation
Salvation and Church The teaching of no salvation outside the Church is important and one that must rightly be understood
Msgr. Charles Pope
3/14/2018
Question: I hear the Catholic Church teaches there is no salvation outside the Church. This would seem to condemn most to hell. Or am I missing something? — Name, location withheld
Answer: It is in fact a doctrine of the Church often repeated by the Fathers of the Church and taught formally. However, it must be understood properly.
The Catechism of the Catholic Church has this to say by way of explanation:
“‘Outside the Church there is no Salvation.’ ... Re-formulated positively, it means that all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body: Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church ... is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door. Hence, they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it. This affirmation is not aimed at those who, through no fault of their own, do not know Christ and his Church” (CCC, Nos. 846-847).
This much is sure: Whoever is in heaven was saved by Jesus Christ in and through his Body the Church. But, as we know, there are many barriers to people fully understanding that the Church is the sole and necessary means for salvation, and thus, simply being outside the Church usually does not alone bring condemnation.
God can and, it would seem, does draw others unto himself in ways not always known to us. All of this can console us and bring an understanding that the teaching “outside the Church there is no salvation” is not understood absolutely.
But this consolation must not be the source of letting our missionary zeal wane. While it is possible to be saved beyond the Church, sacraments and explicit faith in Christ, it is much more difficult. Consider the following teaching from the Second Vatican Council:
“Those also can attain to salvation who through no fault of their own do not know the Gospel of Christ or His Church, yet sincerely seek God and moved by grace strive by their deeds to do His will as it is known to them through the dictates of conscience. Nor does Divine Providence deny the helps necessary for salvation to those who, without blame on their part, have not yet arrived at an explicit knowledge of God and with His grace strive to live a good life. ... But often men, deceived by the Evil One, have become vain in their reasonings and have exchanged the truth of God for a lie, serving the creature rather than the Creator (cf. Rom 1:21, 25). Or some there are who, living and dying in this world without God, are exposed to final despair. Wherefore to promote the glory of God and procure the salvation of all of these, and mindful of the command of the Lord, ‘Preach the Gospel to every creature’ (Mk 16:16), the Church fosters the missions with care and attention” (Lumen Gentium, No. 16).
And therefore, we see that people often are deceived or let themselves be deceived. So, the fact that people can be saved apart from the Church is not a blank check or presumption that they likely will be saved. It must always be our earnest work to evangelize, for many “prefer the darkness” (see Jn 3:19).
TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; History; Theology
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To: Steelfish
So no embarrassment that a major Protestant seminary ends up with theological converts to Catholicism?
1. Minor institution
2. Most faculty have degrees from this same minor institution
3. The Scriptures are not the main focus
4. You could fit all the converts in a medium-sized pontoon boat and use them as bait
5. You misrepresented the truth by making exaggerated claims you cannot back up.
Was your misrepresentation purposeful, or are you unaware of the realities you write about in your claims??
To: Luircin
Just on this thread alone, were halfway to matching that from converts AWAY from Rome. You are correct sir. I am one of those ex Catholics, and I didnt even go to a seminary either. My dad asked me once, and ONLY once, if I ever wanted to be a priest. I said no I did not. I didnt tell him, but I committed too many mortal sins, and I was interested in female companionship, so I was not interested in being a priest.
642
posted on
04/27/2018 12:13:51 PM PDT
by
Mark17
(Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
To: Mark17
When people get long winded,
They assume their words have offended.
But when truth is pronounced,
And lies denounced,
The Holy Spirit gives sight to the blinded.
643
posted on
04/27/2018 1:05:35 PM PDT
by
boatbums
(The Law is a storm which wrecks your hopes of self-salvation, but washes you upon the Rock of Ages.)
To: boatbums
To: aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Luircin
Yeah, I’m not at all impressed that some liberals imagine they can find something they think they’re missing by swimming the Tiber. The boast by Catholicism that they have the “fuller” version of the Christian faith just comes off as snooty. If by fuller they mean all the extra stuff that glommed onto Roman Catholicism over the centuries, I’ll pass - the Apostles didn’t think they were necessary so I don’t either. When the perversion of the gospel - where justification is by faith AND works - is added, it’s a fullness that condemns, not saves. Their loss.
646
posted on
04/27/2018 3:16:43 PM PDT
by
boatbums
(The Law is a storm which wrecks your hopes of self-salvation, but washes you upon the Rock of Ages.)
To: FourtySeven
I don't care who ya are that's funny right there.
It actually used to bother me until I realized that there were only six five of them, maybe even less these days but they sure do post up a storm.
7
647
posted on
04/27/2018 3:56:07 PM PDT
by
infool7
(Observe, Orient, Pray, Decide, Act!(it's an OOPDA loop))
To: Elsie
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Only if Truth is special.
The Italicized words are not scripture, they’re the foundation of the errors of Christianity
The adversary’s gift to his christians.
648
posted on
04/27/2018 4:11:02 PM PDT
by
editor-surveyor
(Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
To: infool7
649
posted on
04/27/2018 4:11:03 PM PDT
by
Luircin
To: editor-surveyor
Sorry, your self-contradictions on this very thread make me laugh even harder at you, and all your backpedaling is even funnier.
650
posted on
04/27/2018 4:12:46 PM PDT
by
Luircin
To: infool7; aMorePerfectUnion; boatbums
Funny how the four Cath posters on FR only drink the haterade against Protestants.
And when people come up that deny Jesus entirely and teach total falsehood, they’re completely silent and leave the Protestants to defend against the spirit of antichrist alone.
Really shows where their priorities lie.
651
posted on
04/27/2018 4:15:30 PM PDT
by
Luircin
To: Luircin; aMorePerfectUnion
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>> “After all, he admitted upthread that he thinks Rood is bigger than Jesus!” <<
Typical reversal of the truth from Luircin!
He hates the scriptures, and loves the lie, just like his Daddy.
His mission here is to send Freerepublic to hell.
(and his coven loves it)
.
652
posted on
04/27/2018 4:15:48 PM PDT
by
editor-surveyor
(Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
To: Luircin
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Your severe dellusion has set in permanently!
I have never pulled your self contradiction trick, and there is nothing to backpedal from scripture.
I know you’ll never accept scripture; it doesn’t fit the sweet lies you love.
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653
posted on
04/27/2018 4:19:27 PM PDT
by
editor-surveyor
(Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Luircin; infool7
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You demand falsehood.
Its your only posting mode here.
656
posted on
04/27/2018 4:21:30 PM PDT
by
editor-surveyor
(Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
To: editor-surveyor
If you had any actual proof, you’d have posted it instead of acting like a little 3-year-old denied candy.
And yet, your only proof continues to be insisting that A: Scripture means the exact opposite of what it says, and B: Everything that contradicts your beloved Rood isn’t REALLY in the Bible, even when we have literally thousands of years of proof of Scripture.
657
posted on
04/27/2018 4:25:11 PM PDT
by
Luircin
To: Luircin
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Your deliberate twisting of scripture is not scripture.
658
posted on
04/27/2018 4:27:11 PM PDT
by
editor-surveyor
(Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
To: editor-surveyor
You’re a funny little man.
I’m not the one who takes huge swaths out of Scripture just because your bedsheet-clad fake rabbi says so.
I’m also not the one who insists that Scripture means the exact opposite of what it says.
659
posted on
04/27/2018 4:28:57 PM PDT
by
Luircin
To: Luircin
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The scriptures that I have posted to this thread, only to have you cry that they can’t mean what the plain text says are all the proof needed.
Hard to prove anything but bannanas to a chimp like you.
660
posted on
04/27/2018 4:30:41 PM PDT
by
editor-surveyor
(Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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