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Salvation and Church
OSV.com ^ | 03-14-18 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 04/21/2018 9:30:28 AM PDT by Salvation

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To: Steelfish
From article:

Christians often speak of “orthodoxy,” “heresy,” “essentials,” and “fundamentals”—but by what authority are these words defined, and doctrines labelled?



 

 


'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather scornful tone,
' it means just what I choose it to mean, neither more nor less.'

'The question is,' said Alice, 'whether you can make words mean so many different things.'

'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master - that's all.'  


621 posted on 04/27/2018 4:49:13 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: editor-surveyor; MHGinTN; Mom MD; Luircin; aMorePerfectUnion; boatbums; Mark17; Elsie; ealgeone
Yeshua Renewed his covenant, and he never called it new.

Well, you are wrong and here's the Scripture to prove it.

Luke 22:17-21 And he took a cup, and when he had given thanks he said, “Take this, and divide it among yourselves. For I tell you that from now on I will not drink of the fruit of the vine until the kingdom of God comes.”

And he took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and gave it to them, saying, “This is my body, which is given for you. Do this in remembrance of me.” And likewise the cup after they had eaten, saying, “This cup that is poured out for you is the new covenant in my blood. But behold, the hand of him who betrays me is with me on the table.

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Here's the Greek word for *new*.

http://biblehub.com/text/luke/22-20.htm

Strong's Concordance

kainos: new, fresh
Original Word: καινός, ή, όν
Part of Speech: Adjective
Transliteration: kainos
Phonetic Spelling: (kahee-nos')
Short Definition: fresh, new
Definition: fresh, new, unused, novel.

HELPS Word-studies

2537 kainós – properly, new in quality (innovation), fresh in development or opportunity – because "not found exactly like this before."

You have just been proved by the very quoted words of the Messiah in Scripture itself, to be absolutely, completely, and thoroughly wrong.

You need to repent of fallowing that false teaching and false teacher by the name of Rood before it's too late.

If he's teaching that, he's teaching outright lies that contradict the very words given us by God Himself.

622 posted on 04/27/2018 5:05:23 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: Steelfish; aMorePerfectUnion; daniel1212
You wouldn’t find the thousands of their names because of the stigma that attaches to them from friends and family.

In your dreams......

Why not? Are they ashamed of being Catholic or something?

FWIW, *dozens* ≠ *thousands* and your excuse does not cut it.

Not to mention that *catholicworldreport* is hardly an unbiased source.

623 posted on 04/27/2018 5:13:40 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: Steelfish

Really Steelfish?

Your claim of thousand of “Protestant theologians” has been reduced to a handful of converts from a tiny seminary - plus some former students thrown in to pad it??

And it took almost a week to find this article?

Where is your list of thousands??

That is the part I’m embarrassed about - for you.


624 posted on 04/27/2018 5:21:03 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Q is Admiral Michael S. Rogers)
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To: Mark17

“Hey bro, before you get that list, you will be in the presence of Jesus, and that great Protestant theologian, brother Martin Luther, who lives rent free, in the minds of some false religionists.”

It was a totally made up bloviation.


625 posted on 04/27/2018 5:22:09 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Q is Admiral Michael S. Rogers)
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To: Elsie

Still laughable.


626 posted on 04/27/2018 6:53:36 AM PDT by Luircin
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To: metmom; editor-surveyor

Well, you are wrong and here’s the Scripture to prove it.

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In before e-s accuses you of changing the Bible!

Also in before he thinks that screaming at you that he’s right and you’re wrong without a single lick of evidence is somehow a good argument.


627 posted on 04/27/2018 6:56:11 AM PDT by Luircin
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To: Elsie; editor-surveyor

Michael Rood has never taught a single word that is not verbatim from the KJV.

All one has to do is remove the italicised lies and confusion from the KJV and you have exactly what Michael teaches.

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Nice catch; I missed that!

LOL!


628 posted on 04/27/2018 6:57:32 AM PDT by Luircin
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To: metmom
Why not? Are they ashamed of being Catholic or something?

I certainly was, when I was a catholic. Two things that REALLY embarrassed me were holy water 💦, number one. My Protestant friends would say, holy water, are you kidding me? Can you drink it? What will it do, clean out your insides?
The other, was confessing my sins to a priest. My sin meter, that kept track of my mortal sins, spun at warp speed, since I committed about 3 mortal sins a second, but since I was honest, I told the priest my racy sins. Sometimes, I thought that some of these priests, were getting their jollies listening to my sins, so I stopped embarrassing myself to them. My Protestant friends said they hoped I didn’t tell the priest all my sins, cuz he was probably worse than I was, and who did he tell HIS sins to?
So, yes. I was embarrassed to be a catholic, but what I hated the most, was I didn’t have a clue where I was going to spend eternity, 🔥 so I figured why not just eat, drink and be merry, for tomorrow you die. 😂
So, if I wander a little, and get too close to the Tiber, just beat me severely about the head and shoulders, just to get my attention, so I don’t start swimming in it. 😇

630 posted on 04/27/2018 7:31:38 AM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: Luircin; Steelfish; Elsie; metmom; ealgeone; Mom MD
The Claim:

The Reality:


631 posted on 04/27/2018 7:31:42 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Q is Admiral Michael S. Rogers)
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To: Mark17

ping to 631


632 posted on 04/27/2018 7:32:20 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Q is Admiral Michael S. Rogers)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

LOL!


633 posted on 04/27/2018 7:46:29 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
LOL, sounds like a good fish story to me. Maybe that was the one that got away. I wish some people would stop bashing me, cuz I feel like they are bashing me, if they disagree with me. 😂
By the way bro, my two dearest friends, that I knew when I was in the USAF, are both Dallas grads, and have 2 sons that have PHDs in nuclear engineering. I thought they both had minds like computers, so I am not surprised their sons do too.
Me, on the other hand, I barely made it out of high school, let alone college. I did, however, do REALLY well, at moving sheet metal around the sky. One thing people may not quite understand, is that once aviation gets into a person’s blood, it NEVER gets out. Not a day goes by, that I don’t look up at the airplanes flying into Bangoy, and reminisce about the good old days, and when I was the one trying to keep them from occupying the same space, at the same time.
634 posted on 04/27/2018 7:57:51 AM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Do I get rather long winded at times? 😂😁😇🙃🇵🇭 Maybe another Limerick is in order. 🤣
635 posted on 04/27/2018 8:02:17 AM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
I gotta bow out for awhile, to charge my brand spankin new IPhone X. It’s a beautiful thing. 👍
636 posted on 04/27/2018 8:06:41 AM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; metmom; Elsie

So no embarrassment that a major Protestant seminary ends up with theological converts to Catholicism?

It’s happening all over the world. The “Rev. Jeremiah Wright-Billy Graham- Joel Osteen-Corner Street Pastor” who opens up the Bible and gives his or her interpretation of scripture is now increasingly been found to be a fraud.


637 posted on 04/27/2018 9:53:56 AM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

Who equates the Mother of Jesus as a co-redemtrix is not offering Christianity, either. So what is your point. You’re not embarrassed by such blasphemy.


639 posted on 04/27/2018 10:10:49 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Steelfish

And while we’re at it...

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It’s happening all over the world. The “Rev. Jeremiah Wright-Billy Graham- Joel Osteen-Corner Street Pastor” who opens up the Bible and gives his or her interpretation of scripture is now increasingly been found to be a fraud.

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And the Catholic priests having cocaine sodomy orgies in the Vatican aren’t frauds?


640 posted on 04/27/2018 10:17:21 AM PDT by Luircin
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