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Open Apostasy In The Vatican
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| January 5, 2018
| Fr. Jerome - Guest Post
Posted on 01/06/2018 1:15:17 PM PST by ebb tide
Here is another post from Fr. Jerome
The state of the Church right now is the fault of conservatives, not liberals. Vatican II was hijacked by liberals 50 years ago only because conservatives were sleepy and trusting of men. And this continues in Rome today to a worse extent.
Yes, there will always be liberals who hate Christ, but what is different now from the rest of Church history is that Christs closest clerical friends are too afraid to fight for His Church. No, the four Cardinals of the Dubia are nothing like St. Athanasius or St. Maximus the Confessor or St. Nicholas or St. John Chrysostom.
The saints had no need to hear out heretics in a pastoral manner. There will always be heretics, but that is not the problem. The problem is the want of saints. The saintly bishops of the first 500 years of the Church revealed the poisonous words of heretics, gentle as they be, were sent into exile, and then they were vindicated (usually in their lifetime) for their reckless courage. I see no reckless courage today in the face of open heresy. And this is why the open heresy of four years ago in the Vatican has become an open apostasy in the highest ranks in the Church.
Let me remind the readers of three definitions:
1) Heresy is the denial of even one part of Divine Revelation
2) Apostasy is a full renunciation of the unique and redemptive act of Jesus Christ.
3) Soteriology is the study of salvation.
The false prophet on the Chair of Peter is now espousing a soteriology that is little different from a Unitarian Universalist. We have full apostasy now in the Vatican
and not a single bishop is willing to say anything against full and outright soteriological apostasy? No. Rather, our most courageous prelates flex their muscles against a single sexual line in Amoris Laetitia.
This is not courage. It is not courage that no one questions a clearly-forced Papal-resignation of Pope Benedict XVI. It is not courage that no one (except a retired courageous bishop in Texas) questions a tampered-Conclave to elect our current false-prophet.
Like the Republicans in the 1980s in the USA who promised to end abortion in order to keep their office (but did very little) I fear these conservative bishops are doing as much damage to the Church as the gay Cardinals who hate the Church and are overturning every point of Our Faith. Why? Why are the former like the latter?
For not resisting with courage. If any bishop should ever read this, let me remind you that the Holy Spirit in the book of the Apocalypse places through the Apostle John cowards in the same lake of fire as murderers:
But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.Apocalypse 21:8 ESV
I for one: resist. I renounce the open apostasy in the Vatican in the name of Jesus Christ and I beg the wrath of St. Peter and St. Paul to stop this blasphemy of the Eternal City and this mockery of Jesus Christs own apostolic succession. I will reveal my name when I am ready to lose my faculties as a priest in current good standing and go into exile, but for now, I resist in the name of Jesus Christ.
TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: francischurch
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posted on
01/06/2018 1:15:17 PM PST
by
ebb tide
To: ebb tide
It appears the Catholic Church hierarchy has the same weak, no backbone, conservatives as exist in the Republican Party.
To: ebb tide
The destruction of our church will continue as long francis is the Pope. Is the any hope for his removal?
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posted on
01/06/2018 1:26:10 PM PST
by
gibsonguy
To: gibsonguy
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posted on
01/06/2018 1:31:17 PM PST
by
xzins
(Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory.)
To: xzins
Born December 17, 1936, so he just turned 81.
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posted on
01/06/2018 1:42:41 PM PST
by
Campion
(Halten Sie sich unbedingt an die Lehre!)
To: ebb tide
Homosexuality is tolerated and accepted at the Vatican and has before the current pope.
Pedaphiles were shuffled around to protect the church and it happened worldwide.
If they cant get something so evil corrected, it is not surprising to see the rot spread.
To: gibsonguy
I dont think so - not unless the winged monkeys come to carry him off.
And yes, the bishops are soft, cowardly creatures, even worse than the GOP.
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posted on
01/06/2018 2:04:05 PM PST
by
livius
To: aMorePerfectUnion
Has your denomination corrected homosexual activity?
Has it corrected theft, murder, adultery, etc?
If so, what is your magical denomination?
8
posted on
01/06/2018 2:08:12 PM PST
by
ebb tide
(We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
To: Campion
What’s the life expectancy of Argentinians born in 1936?
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posted on
01/06/2018 2:28:18 PM PST
by
xzins
(Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory.)
To: xzins
Pope Francis has already done immeasurable harm to the Church for many years to come through his appointment of doctrinally questionable bishops.
What he has set in motion will not end with his papacy.
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posted on
01/06/2018 2:32:58 PM PST
by
independentmind
(Sticks and stones will break my bones, but words will never hurt me.)
To: ebb tide
A Catholic friend has wondered, quite sincerely, if the current pope and what is happening under him is the third Fatima secret. The one that made previous popes almost faint with horror.
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posted on
01/06/2018 2:39:45 PM PST
by
Ciaphas Cain
(Liberalism, as with all else evil, can never create. It can only corrupt.)
To: Ciaphas Cain
That sentiment is shared by many Catholics, and has been written about extensively in the Catholic blogosphere.
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posted on
01/06/2018 2:41:24 PM PST
by
independentmind
(Sticks and stones will break my bones, but words will never hurt me.)
To: Ciaphas Cain
You have a smart friend who knows his Faith.
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posted on
01/06/2018 2:43:54 PM PST
by
ebb tide
(We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
To: ebb tide
“The state of the Church right now is the fault of conservatives, not liberals. Vatican II was hijacked by liberals 50 years ago only because conservatives were sleepy and trusting of men. And this continues in Rome today to a worse extent.”
Replace Church with US, Vatican II with The Institutions, and Rome with Washington, and that statement is just as true
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posted on
01/06/2018 3:03:29 PM PST
by
aquila48
To: independentmind
“Pope Francis has already done immeasurable harm to the Church for many years to come through his appointment of doctrinally questionable bishops.
What he has set in motion will not end with his papacy.”
Given the Cardinals he’s appointed, the next pope may actually be worse than him.
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posted on
01/06/2018 3:07:37 PM PST
by
aquila48
To: independentmind
JPII would have just fired them. But he was a real pope.
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posted on
01/06/2018 3:08:58 PM PST
by
xzins
(Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory.)
To: ebb tide
Pope Benedict XVI outlined all the problems today and provided solutions in 1985. Cardinal Newman did the same in 1885.
Problem: apostasy. Solution: trust. The Lord will never scrap His project.
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posted on
01/06/2018 3:14:21 PM PST
by
Falconspeed
("Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others." Robert Louis Stevenson (1850-94))
To: ebb tide; aMorePerfectUnion
Shuffling pedo priests around and homosexual cocaine orgies in the Vatican itself.
That’s a little more extremely sinful than I would be willing to accept in my leadership.
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posted on
01/06/2018 3:20:56 PM PST
by
Luircin
To: Falconspeed
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posted on
01/06/2018 3:21:16 PM PST
by
Luircin
To: ebb tide
“Has your denomination corrected homosexual activity?
... every time it rises up. This disqualifies someone from a position of leadership, unlike the Vatican and parishes.
“Has it corrected theft, murder, adultery, etc?
... wherever it is found... instead of hiding it, perpetuating it, shuffling perps around to multiple locations to get new victims.
“If so, what is your magical denomination?
It is identified on my home page.
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