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To: vladimir998
Nope. St. Paul never once advocated Sola fide - hence he emphasized “obedience of faith”.

Yes...we are to be obedient...but we come to Christ through faith and faith alone.

You cannot earn your way to salvation.

Your works don't lead to salvation....your salvation leads to fruit (works).

But the fruit isn't what keeps you saved. Your faith in Him does as noted in Ephesians 1:13-14.....you are sealed by the Holy Spirit. He keeps you.

//hence the NIV editors replaced the word “tradition” with “teaching” in St. Paul 2 Thessalonians 2:15 but they admit it in the footnote. What’s really weird is they have “traditions” in 1 Corinthians 11:2. If they have it there, why not 1 Thess.?

I cannot explain the editors of the NIV.

But regarding 2 Thess 2:15 the Greek indicates παραδόσεις.

3862 parádosis (from 3844 /pará, "from close-beside" and 1325 /dídōmi, "give over") – properly, give (hand over) from close-beside, referring to tradition as passed on from one generation to the next.

Now, the question is....what were those things that Paul taught them?

Context is the key to understanding that question.

And it isn't all of the other stuff that's been claimed by Roman Catholicism.

71 posted on 11/28/2017 5:01:13 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

“You cannot earn your way to salvation.”

No one here is claiming you can. But you have to use straw men like that don’t you?

“Your works don’t lead to salvation....your salvation leads to fruit (works).”

Grace leads to your salvation and we receive grace for both our faith in Christ and the works He begins in us that we cooperate with.

“But the fruit isn’t what keeps you saved.”

Only grace saves.

“Your faith in Him does as noted in Ephesians 1:13-14.....you are sealed by the Holy Spirit. He keeps you.”

Grace keeps you. Please note that the passage you just cited contradicts you. It never says, “Faith saves you.” It says, “When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal...” That seal is a gift of grace which is opened with faith. Faith can only save in that it opens the way for grace. We are saved by GRACE ALONE. We receive grace for both our faith in Christ and the works He begins in us that we cooperate with.

“parádosis” = “tradition” - that’s what the word means. It’s what is handed down to the next generation. TRADITION.

“Now, the question is....what were those things that Paul taught them? Context is the key to understanding that question. And it isn’t all of the other stuff that’s been claimed by Roman Catholicism.”

“Roman Catholicism” is a Protestant traditional term.


79 posted on 11/28/2017 5:29:55 PM PST by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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