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Protestantism, Modernism, Atheism
Crisis Magazine ^
| November 28, 2017
| Julia Meloni
Posted on 11/28/2017 12:09:34 PM PST by ebb tide
The reality of the apostasy of faith in our time rightly and profoundly frightens us, said Cardinal Burke in honor of Fatimas centenary.
In 1903, Pope St. Pius X declared himself terrified by humanitys self-destructive apostasy from God: For behold they that go far from Thee shall perish (Ps. 72:27). How much more daunting, said Cardinal Burke, is todays widespread apostasy.
In 1910, St. Pius X condemned the movement for a One-World Church without dogmas, hierarchy, or curb for the passionsa church which, under the pretext of freedom, would impose legalized cunning and force. How much more, said Cardinal Burke, do todays movements for a single government of the world and certain movements with the Church herself disregard sin and salvation?
In Pascendi, St. Pius X named the trajectory toward the annihilation of all religion: The first step
was taken by Protestantism; the second
by [the heresy of] Modernism; the next will plunge headlong into atheism.
So let us, said Cardinal Burke, heed Fatimas call for prayer, penance, and reparation. Let us be agents of the triumph of Marys Immaculate Heart.
A few weeks after that speech, the Vatican announced its shining tribute to the Protestant revolution: a golden stamp with Luther and Melanchthon at the foot of the cross, triumphantly supplanting the Blessed Virgin and St. John.
Bishop Athanasius Schneider has asked how the Vatican can call Luther a witness to the gospel when he called the Mass
a blasphemy and the papacy an invention of Satan. The signatories of the filial correction have expressed wonderment and sorrow at a statue of Luther in the Vaticanand documented the affinity between Luthers ideas on law, justification, and marriage and Pope Franciss statements.
At a 2016 joint commemoration of the Protestant revolution, Pope Francis expressed joy for its myriad gifts. He and pro-abortion Lutherans with female clergy jointly declared that what unites us is greater than what divides us. Together they raise[d] their voices against violence. They prayed for the conversion of those who exploit the earth. They declared the goal of receiving the Eucharist at one table to express their full unity.
In Martin Luther: An Ecumenical Perspective, Cardinal Kasper confirms that the excommunicated, apostate monk is now a common church father, a new St. Francis of Assisi. This prophet of the new evangelization was forced into calling the pope the Antichrist after his call for repentance was not heard. But Kasper finds ecumenical hope in Luthers statement that he would
kiss the feet of a pope who allows and acknowledges his gospel.
Kasper says Pope Franciss Evangelii Gaudium, without mentioning him by name, makes Luthers concerns stand in the center.
So its Luthers gospel of grace and mercy behind, apparently, the high disdain for self-absorbed promethean neopelagianis[ts] plagued by a soundness of doctrine thats narcissistic and authoritarian (EG 94).
So its Lutherthe bizarre protagonist of ecumenical unitybehind the demand for a conversion of the papacy that gives genuine doctrinal authority to episcopal conferences (EG 32). Sandro Magister says the pope is already creating a federation of national Churches endowed with extensive autonomy through liturgical decentralization.
So its Luther behind the demand to accept the unruly freedom of the word, which accomplishes what it wills in ways that surpass our
ways of thinking (EG 22). Kasper says Luthers faith in the self-implementation of the word of God gave him a heroic openness to the future.
Ultimately, Kaspers Luthera prophet of openness to futurity, a Catholic reformer waiting for a sympathetic popeemerges as a symbolic father for Modernisms struggle to change the Church from within. Modernism falsely claims that God evolves with historymaking truth utterly mutable. So Kasper the Modernist says dogmas can be stupid and Church structures can spring from ideology and denying the Eucharist to adulterers because of one phrase from Christ is ideological, too.
Kasper baldly calls the changeless God an offense to man:
One must deny him for mans sake, because he claims for himself the dignity and honor that belong by right to man
.
We must resist this God
also for Gods sake. He is not the true God at all, but rather a wretched idol. For a God
who is not himself history is a finite God. If we call such a being God, then for the sake of the Absolute we must become absolute atheists. Such a God springs from a rigid worldview; he is the guarantor of the status quo and the enemy of the new.
A shocking ultimatum from the man hailed as the popes theologian: either embrace a mutable God whos not an enemy of the newor profess absolute, unflinching, hardcore atheism.
Kasper says the Church must be led by a spirit that is not primarily the third divine person. That ominous spirit, says Thomas Stark, is apparently some Hegelian agent of creations self-perfection. Pope Francis, against all the sourpusses (EG 85), describes our final cause as the utopian future (EG 222). Because God wants us to be happy in this world, its no longer possible to claim that religion
exists only to prepare souls for heaven (EG 182).
But Christ said, In the world you shall have distress (Jn. 16:33). The 1907 dystopian novel The Lord of the World hauntingly imagines the travails of historys last days, when humanity has heeded Kaspers call to resist God with absolute atheism if necessary. By this point, Protestantism is dead, for men recognize at last that a supernatural religion involves an absolute authority. Those with any supernatural belief left are Catholicpersecuted by a world professing no God but man, no priest but the politician.
More and more clergy apostatize. Man has learned his own divinity. Yet Fr. Percy Franklin still adores the Eucharistic Lord, still believes that the reconciling of a soul to God is greater than the reconciling of nations. He secretly hears a dying womans confession before the real prieststhe euthanizerscome.
Her daughter-in-law, Mabel, scoffs that the new atheism has perfected Catholicism:
Do you not understand that all which Jesus Christ promised has come true, though in another way? The reign of God has really begun; but we know now who God is. You said just now you wanted the forgiveness of Sins; well, you have that; we all have it, because there is no such thing as sin. There is only Crime.
And then Communion. You used to believe that that made you a partaker of God; well, we are all partakers of God, because we are all human beings.
Mabel and the rapt multitudes ritually worship Man. God was a hideous nightmare. Their spirits swoon before a politician promising the universal brotherhood of man.
That savior of the world is the Antichrist. All must deny God or die.
For history, like the novel itself, ends not with rapturous utopia but with tribulation, apostasy, martyrdoms, and Gods triumph over the revolt of evil [in] the form of the Last Judgment (CCC 677). In the throes of his own tribulation, Fr. Franklin calls us to cling to the faith and those refuges of old:
The mass, prayer, the rosary. These first and last. The world denies their power: it is on their power that Christians must throw all their weight.
TOPICS: Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: francischurch; oneworldchurch
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To: ealgeone
Probably because they’ve got other hoops for you to jump through instead.
Maybe it works only once.
161
posted on
11/28/2017 8:16:46 PM PST
by
metmom
( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
To: ebb tide
It’s both a shame and a detriment that y’all reject this sacrament.
No Apostle ever taught a sacramental System.
Added by Rome to placate pagan converts.
To: boatbums
You, know, for some of them I think just BEING on the hamster wheel is what they count on to save them.
Yes. Im doing everything I can!!
It is a hamster wheel of self-effort and guilt.
To: aMorePerfectUnion
I just quoted the apostle John.
I can’t help it if you reject him and scripture.
Why do you guys baptize each other if it’s not a sacrament?
164
posted on
11/28/2017 8:22:33 PM PST
by
ebb tide
(We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
To: ebb tide
LOL. Again.
Really, if a faith can’t stand up to facts that you have to repeat proven falsehoods in order to defend yourself, what a pathetic faith that is indeed.
165
posted on
11/28/2017 8:28:31 PM PST
by
Luircin
To: ebb tide
Why do you guys baptize each other if its not a sacrament? Anyone who believes in Christ follows in His example of being baptized.
Protestants and Evangelicals see ordinances as symbolic reenactments of the gospel message that Christ lived, died, was raised from the dead, ascended to heaven, and will someday return. Rather than requirements for salvation, ordinances are visual aids to help us better understand and appreciate what Jesus Christ accomplished for us in His redemptive work. Ordinances are determined by three factors: they were instituted by Christ, they were taught by the apostles, and they were practiced by the early church. Since baptism and communion are the only rites which qualify under these three factors, there can be only two ordinances, neither of which are requirements for salvation.
Ordinances are generally understood to be those things Jesus told us to observe with other Christians. Regarding baptism, Matthew 28:18-20 says, "Then Jesus came to them and said, All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age. As for communion, also called the Lords Supper, Luke 22:19 says, And he took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, This is my body given for you; do this in remembrance of me. Most churches observe these two practices, but may not necessarily refer to them as ordinances.
https://www.gotquestions.org/ordinances-sacraments.html
To: ebb tide
*Shrug*
I do confession and forgiveness all the time.
Of course, losing your salvation every time you do a ‘mortal sin’ and then having to rush to confess it must be very tiresome.
What if you’ve committed sins you can’t remember?
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posted on
11/28/2017 8:30:42 PM PST
by
Luircin
To: boatbums
Did you read the linked article?
Seven books of the Bible, all in the Old Testament, are accepted by Roman Catholics and Eastern Orthodox, but are not accepted by Jews or Protestants. These include 1 and 2 Maccabees, Judith, Tobit, Baruch, Sirach, and Wisdom, and additions to the books of Esther and Daniel. These books are called Deuterocanonical by Catholics and Orthodox and Apocryphal by Jews and Protestants. These were the last books of the Old Testament written, composed in the last two centuries B.C. Their omission in Protestant Bibles leaves a chronological gap in salvation history.
In the 16th century, Martin Luther adopted the Jewish list, putting the Deuterocanonical books in an appendix. He also put the letter of James, the letter to the Hebrews, the letters of John, and the book of Revelation from the New Testament in an appendix. He did this for doctrinal reasons (for example: 2 Maccabees 12:43-46 supports the doctrine of purgatory, Hebrews supports the existence of the priesthood, and James 2:24 supports the Catholic doctrine on merit). Later Lutherans followed Luthers Old Testament list and rejected the Deuterocanonical books, but they did not follow his rejection of the New Testament books.
Finally, in 1546, the Council of Trent reaffirmed the traditional list of the Catholic Church.
168
posted on
11/28/2017 8:32:07 PM PST
by
ebb tide
(We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
To: ealgeone
Peter and the Apostles baptized 3,000 in one day.
or
Peter ordered the other Apostles to baptize 3,000 in one day.
What’s the effective difference in any theological sense?
None.
So why are you seemingly desperately clinging to this as if it means something when either way I was correct because St. Peter was still responsible for every baptism that day???
Go on and flounder. It’s all you can do. You don’t actually have an argument of any kind and you certainly can’t seem to make one so yeah keep going with this non-argument that still shows I’m right either way: Peter and the Apostles baptized 3,000 in one day. Peter ordered other Apostles to baptize 3,000 in one day. Peter told the people to repent and be baptized and they were.
169
posted on
11/28/2017 8:32:53 PM PST
by
vladimir998
(Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
To: ebb tide; aMorePerfectUnion
So clueless you are......
170
posted on
11/28/2017 8:35:26 PM PST
by
metmom
( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
To: ebb tide
So you admit the truth that Catholics didn’t have a confirmed canon until Trent.
After Luther’s death.
And yet you still whine about Luther ‘removing books from the Bible’ when Catholics did it themselves for hundreds of years before Dr. Luther was born.
What, was Dr. Luther a Time Lord or something? Did he go back in time to make Catholics take books out of the Bible before he was a gleam in his father’s eye?
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posted on
11/28/2017 8:36:13 PM PST
by
Luircin
To: ebb tide
**That’s where the Holy Sacrament of Confession comes in as per your “scripture”. See John 20: [22] When he had said this, he breathed on them; and he said to them: Receive ye the Holy Ghost. [23] Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them; and whose sins you shall retain, they are retained. It’s both a shame and a detriment that y’all reject this sacrament.**
John 20:23 is parallel instruction to what is in Luke 24:47. They began preaching that the lost in Acts 2:38. It’s repentance and baptism the name of Jesus Christ that remits sins; not visits to a confession booth.
172
posted on
11/28/2017 8:41:22 PM PST
by
Zuriel
(Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
To: ebb tide
It seems like the majority of your time on Free Republic is spent posting threads and comments that are condemning of non Catholic Christians (Protestants) and bashing the current Pope and fellow Catholics who aren't "Traditionalist" in their practice of Catholicism as you do. You've been asked for your motivation for doing so but I don't recall your reasons if you have given them. I'm starting to think based on how vehement you can be that you believe you are defending the "True" church of Jesus Christ. Perhaps you think you will receive indulgences for doing this or maybe because you
aren't as secure in what you believe as you let on and it helps to denounce others in order to make oneself feel superior?
Whatever is pushing you to do this, just know that others here HAVE investigated and studied the doctrines of Christianity and would more than likely be in agreement with much of what Catholicism teaches. It's sad when threads devolve into insult fests and gotchas and the opportunity to have an adult discussion is lost.
Try putting the sandal on the other foot sometime and look at how those you persist in attacking feel compelled to reply and defend their beliefs. The Bible says God hates him that sows discord among brethren (Proverbs 6:19). Don't be that person.
173
posted on
11/28/2017 8:46:02 PM PST
by
boatbums
(The Law is a storm which wrecks your hopes of self-salvation, but washes you upon the Rock of Ages.)
To: vladimir998
To: aMorePerfectUnion
175
posted on
11/28/2017 8:47:37 PM PST
by
narses
( For the Son of man shall come ... and then will he render to every man according to his works.)
To: boatbums
And that’s just the thing; I’ve read Catholic doctrine and about 70% of it is pretty darn solid.
But that last 30%...
And dealing with holier-than-thou Catholics doesn’t help.
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posted on
11/28/2017 8:50:15 PM PST
by
Luircin
To: Luircin
I do confession and forgiveness all the time.Please specify. Are you forgiving the sins of others in the name of Jesus Christ or are you just forgiving yourself of your own sins??
If you confess in your own mind, have you ever retained some of those sins rather than forgiven them?
177
posted on
11/28/2017 8:52:08 PM PST
by
ebb tide
(We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
To: Zuriel
Your post illustrates perfectly why context matters in understanding Scrioture. You clearly explained how the two verses work. Nicely done.
To: ealgeone
**Or Paul? I thank God that I baptized none of you except Crispus and Gaius, 1 Cor 1:14 NASB**
And the household of Stephanas. And the certain twelve disciples in Ephesus. And, in Philippi, Lydia and household, and the keeper of the prison with his household.
179
posted on
11/28/2017 8:56:11 PM PST
by
Zuriel
(Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
To: ebb tide
Yes, I read the article and I repeat, Luther did NOT remove books from the Bible as is repeatedly and falsely claimed by some RCs. The Deuterocanonicals/Apocryphals had ALREADY been placed separately from the OT books everyone agrees are Divinely-inspired. Their “omission” - though they weren’t omitted completely - was because NOBODY recognized them as Holy Spirit inspired writings. That’s why they were called “Deuterocanonical” (second canon)! Luther, like Jerome before him and others, said they were useful for edification but not for establishing doctrines. And, contrary to your link, they weren’t rejected for “doctrinal reasons”. That’s an invented rationalization cooked up by anti-Protestants.
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posted on
11/28/2017 8:58:32 PM PST
by
boatbums
(The Law is a storm which wrecks your hopes of self-salvation, but washes you upon the Rock of Ages.)
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