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1 posted on 11/03/2017 11:44:30 AM PDT by ebb tide
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He’s not the first pope to value peace over freedom.


2 posted on 11/03/2017 11:47:48 AM PDT by sparklite2 (I'm less interested in the rights I have than the liberties I can take.)
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To: ebb tide

Does that mean that he is eliminating the Swiss Guard?

Didn’t think so.


3 posted on 11/03/2017 11:47:49 AM PDT by seawolf101 (Member LES DEPLORABLES)
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Well then pope, why do you have Swiss armed guards?


4 posted on 11/03/2017 11:48:08 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~)
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To: ebb tide

It’s ... ‘Thou shall not Murder”...there is a difference.


7 posted on 11/03/2017 11:51:51 AM PDT by caww (freeen)
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To: ebb tide

Does the Pope shit in the woods?


8 posted on 11/03/2017 11:55:34 AM PDT by ransacked
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How nice of this papal pretender to lend meaning to the spirit of Martin Luther during the 500th anniversary of the protest of corruption, heresy, and apostasy within the Roman Catholic Church.

I pray that this vile and contemptible Quisling is soon called home to face judgment and that he is replaced by a true man of faith.

The world faces hard times and all Jews and Christians will need a believing Catholic Church to act as a bulwark against the foes of Islam and atheism. We can’t afford half of Christianity to be led by a secular humanist and socialist.


9 posted on 11/03/2017 11:55:35 AM PDT by MeganC (Democrat by birth, Republican by default, Conservative by principle.)
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He, like bammy, hates this country. Explains a lot.


11 posted on 11/03/2017 12:04:41 PM PDT by I want the USA back (ItÂ’s Ok To Be White. White Lives Matter. White Guilt is Socially Constructed)
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To: ebb tide

Why is it assumed he is talking about the soldiers who fight the wars? I thought he was talking about bad civilian-political leaders who don’t care about the soldiers and hunger for war and don’t want to discuss peace.

In my opinion, the assumption that he denigrated “soldiers” is a cheap shot. I think he is owed an apology. Why would he pay his respects at a cemetery if he was calling soldiers “warmongers”?

I don’t like the confusion Francis is causing in the Church with his fuzzy treatment of Communion for the divorced and remarried without an annulment. I don’t care for his appointments of liberals as Bishops and Cardinals. There are any number of things he has said and done that I don’t care for and I much prefer SJPII and PB16 (PEB). But this is a cheap shot, an extremely uncharitable interpretation of something he said in an attempt to stir up animosity against him. The fervor to get him, to criticize everything he says and does results in incorrect, poor, fevered thinking against him at times, in my opinion.


13 posted on 11/03/2017 12:17:34 PM PDT by MDLION (J"Trust in the Lord with all your heart" -Proverbs 3:5)
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bkmk


14 posted on 11/03/2017 12:21:22 PM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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Pope Francis = devil`s advocate

St. Cornelius, centurion

St. Expeditius, centurion

St. Longinus, centurion

St. Joan of Arc

St. Nicetas

15 posted on 11/03/2017 12:22:51 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 (((("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")))))))
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To: ebb tide

Sigh...Do I expect him to say anything less?


16 posted on 11/03/2017 12:24:54 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: ebb tide

Certainly not a fan of this Pope. I had to dig a couple levels into this story to find out what he actually said... which had nothing to do with the soldiers fighting the wars, and everything to do with the politicians/leaders that create them.

Let’s not perpetuate lies. There’s enough truth out there to cast doubt on him.


20 posted on 11/03/2017 12:53:19 PM PDT by Egon
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Psalms 55:21 tells us that war is in the hearts of unrepentant sinners.

Also consider that Matthew 8:5-10 shows us that Jesus commended the centurion for his great faith.

Romans 13:1-5, which tells us that G-d is in control, and speaks of the power of the sword, also applies imo.


21 posted on 11/03/2017 12:59:55 PM PDT by Amendment10
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I read the original article at .va carefully, twice, and could not find any passage where Pope Francis singled out any person, group of people, movement, nation, or gropu of nations as plotters of war. (Though ISIS and the Norks readily come to mind.) I also didn't find any instance of him using the word "warmongers."

I figure I have normal reading comprehension, and I didn't see it.

Could you ---or anybody --- find me the money quote?

26 posted on 11/03/2017 1:37:23 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (There are more things in heaven & on earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy. - Hamlet)
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To: ebb tide

Tear down your wall.


29 posted on 11/03/2017 2:16:02 PM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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RE: The Lord God has commanded us, “You shall not kill.” There are nine words in Hebrew for taking a life. The word used in Exodus 20: 13 for “Thou shalt not kill” is ratsach, a strong verb used to indicate an intentional and unjustified act of murder

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How does he reconcile this with the command of God to the Israelites to slaughter the Canaanites? ( Joshua 10:40, 11:15)

The key word is UNJUSTIFIED, and therein lies the argument.

When is killing justified for him?

Is the killing of ISIS militants justified or not?


31 posted on 11/03/2017 2:29:34 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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He should put his personal Army on humanitarian mission and pronounce to the world (muslims) that he is not protected by soldiers. Pointy hat pointy head!

I read somewhere about selling something to buy a sword but tools of war/solders this pope don’t understand.


49 posted on 11/03/2017 4:49:23 PM PDT by wgmalabama
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I suppose that he will be disbanding the Vatican army, no?


51 posted on 11/04/2017 1:07:32 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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