Francis denigrates soldiers, referring to us as "warmongers."

La Salette Journey ^ | November 2, 2017 | Paul Anthonly Melanson

[Amendment10]

Psalms 55:21 tells us that war is in the hearts of unrepentant sinners.

Also consider that Matthew 8:5-10 shows us that Jesus commended the centurion for his great faith.

Romans 13:1-5, which tells us that G-d is in control, and speaks of the power of the sword, also applies imo.

[ebb tide]

Did you dig deep enough to see that Francis said this while visiting the Nettuno US War Cemetery? Another obvious dig at the U.S.

Do you think Christian soldiers defending their countries should be denied weapons in their battles?

Pope says weapons manufacturers can't call themselves Christian

[Egon]

Did you dig deep enough to see that Francis said this while visiting the Nettuno US War Cemetery? Another obvious dig at the U.S.

I did.

Do you think Christian soldiers defending their countries should be denied weapons in their battles?

I don't.

[ebb tide]

I don't.

So why are are defending an anti-American peacenik who turns a solemn day in the Church calendar into a political statement?

[ebb tide]

Pope Francis might jettison idea of a ‘just war’

[Mrs. Don-o]

I read the original article at .va carefully, twice, and could not find any passage where Pope Francis singled out any person, group of people, movement, nation, or gropu of nations as plotters of war. (Though ISIS and the Norks readily come to mind.) I also didn't find any instance of him using the word "warmongers."

I figure I have normal reading comprehension, and I didn't see it.

Could you ---or anybody --- find me the money quote?

[ebb tide]

Did you read the linked article?

Taking the occasion to reiterate his deep conviction that “wars produce nothing more than cemeteries and death” the Pope said he chose to visit a war cemetery as a sign “in a moment when our humanity seems not to have learned the lesson, or doesn't want to learn it.”

[fidelis]

"Could you ---or anybody --- find me the money quote?"

I'm not seeing it either. This Pope has had his share of malapropisms, but until someone produces a direct quote from him in context, I call knee-jerk BS on this thread.

[BookmanTheJanitor]

Tear down your wall.

[ebb tide]

Do either of you two believe in the Catholic just war theory?

[SeekAndFind]

RE: The Lord God has commanded us, “You shall not kill.” There are nine words in Hebrew for taking a life. The word used in Exodus 20: 13 for “Thou shalt not kill” is ratsach, a strong verb used to indicate an intentional and unjustified act of murder

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How does he reconcile this with the command of God to the Israelites to slaughter the Canaanites? ( Joshua 10:40, 11:15)

The key word is UNJUSTIFIED, and therein lies the argument.

When is killing justified for him?

Is the killing of ISIS militants justified or not?

[Mrs. Don-o]

I do.

[Mrs. Don-o]

OK. Did he say soldiers are all, per se, warmongers?

[fidelis]

"Do either of you two believe in the Catholic just war theory?"

What does that have to do with posting an article falsely attributing a quote to the Pope?

[ebb tide]

I don’t know. And why would he say “all” soldiers.

But he has said weapon manufacturers who supply weapons to just soldiers are “warmongers”.

[ebb tide]

Read the linked article within the post and listen to the audo.

...he stated during his homily – that the only fruit of war is death.

Just wars do have fruits. Just look at the U.S. and Europe after WW II.

Look at Europe after the Battle of Lepanto.

[fidelis]

"But he has said weapon manufacturers who supply weapons to just soldiers are “warmongers”."

OK, since you couldn't find a direct quote from Francis on the other statement, maybe you can provide one for this? I can't find one either.

[Mrs. Don-o]

That is what he said.

He didn’t say soldiers are warmongers.

[Stand Watch Listen]

They’re ceremonial, he’d say. Like tradition, ya know?

I do not think so!

[sparklite2]

No, HE’D say that, not me.