Posted on 10/14/2017 3:09:08 AM PDT by topher
During the night of 12-13 October it had rained throughout, soaking the ground and the pilgrims who make their way to Fátima from all directions by the thousands. By foot, by cart and even by car they came, entering the bowl of the Cova from the Fátima-Leiria road, which today still passes in front of the large square of the Basilica. From there they made their way down the gently slope to the place where a trestle had been erected over the little holm oak of the apparitions. Today on the site is the modern glass and steel Capelhina (little chapel), enclosing the first chapel built there and the statue of Our Lady of the Rosary of Fátima where the holm oak had stood.
As for the children, they made their way to the Cova amid the adulation and skepticism which had followed them since May. When they arrived they found critics who questioned their veracity and the punctuality of the Lady, who had promised to arrive at noon. It was well passed noon by the official time of the country. However, when the sun arrived at its zenith the Lady appeared as she had said she would. The following is the conversation between Our Lady and the child Lucy Santos [who later became Sister Lucy]
[Following is conversation that between Lucy Santos [later known as Sister Lucy of Fatima] and Our Lady of Fatima ]
"What do you want of me?" [Lucy Santo talking]
[Our Lady talking] I want a chapel built here in my honor. I want you to continue saying the Rosary every day. The war will end soon, and the soldiers will return to their homes.
"Yes. Yes." [Lucy Santos talking]
"Will you tell me your name?" [Lucy continues]
[Our Lady talking] I am the Lady of the Rosary.
"I have many petitions from many people. Will you grant them?"
[Our Lady talking] Some I shall grant, and others I must deny. People must amend their lives and ask pardon for their sins. They must not offend our Lord any more, for He is already too much offended!
"And is that all you have to ask?"
[Our Lady talking] There is nothing more.
As the Lady of the Rosary rises toward the east she turns the palms of her hands toward the dark sky. While the rain had stopped, dark clouds continued to obscure the sun, which suddenly bursts through them and is seen to be a soft spinning disk of silver.
"Look at the sun!" [Lucy Santos]
From this point two distinct apparitions were seen, that of the phenomenon of the sun seen by the 70,000 or so spectators and that beheld by the children alone. Lucia describes the latter in her memoirs.
After our Lady had disappeared into the immense distance of the firmament, we beheld St. Joseph with the Child Jesus and Our Lady robed in white with a blue mantle, beside the sun. St. Joseph and the Child Jesus seemed to bless the world, for they traced the Sign of the Cross with their hands. When, a little later, this apparition disappeared, I saw Our Lord and Our lady; it seemed to me to that it was Our Lady of Sorrows (Dolors). Our Lord appeared to bless the world in the same manner as St. Joseph had done. This apparition also vanished, and I saw Our Lady once more, this time resembling Our Lady of Carmel. [Only Lucia would see the later, presaging her entrance into Carmel some years later.]
This would be the last of the apparitions of Fátima for Jacinta and Francisco. However, for Lucia Our Lady would return a seventh time, in 1920, as she had promised the previous May. At that time Lucia would be praying in the Cova before leaving Fátima for a girls boarding school. The Lady would come to urge her to dedicate herself wholly to God.
As the children viewed the various apparitions of Jesus, Mary and Joseph the crowd witnessed a different prodigy, the now famous miracle of the sun. Among the witnesses there were the following:
End of Miracle of the Sun, Part I
Miracle of the Sun, Part II [Eyewitness Accounts] will be posted separately
That was 133 years ago (October 13th 1884).
And it was 33 years prior to the Miracle of the Sun (October 13, 1917).
Because of his vision, Pope Leo XIII wrote his famous Prayer to Saint Michael
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1. Saint Michael is in the book of Revelation.
2. About a year before Pope Leo XIII's vision is the enormous volcanic explosion of August 26-27, 1883 of Krakatoa (volcano).
Krakatoa resulted also in a huge TSUNAMI.
I have the opinion that the fire at the Nuclear Reactor at Chernobyl is indicating events in the book of Revelation.
So is Krakatoa.
Rev 8:8-11[reference to event Krakatoa]
8 The second angel sounded his trumpet, and something like a huge mountain, all ablaze, was thrown into the sea. A third of the sea turned into blood,
9 a third of the living creatures in the sea died, and a third of the ships were destroyed.
[Start of reference to Wormwood or Chernobyl]
10 The third angel sounded his trumpet, and a great star, blazing like a torch, fell from the sky on a third of the rivers and on the springs of water--
11 the name of the star is Wormwood. A third of the waters turned bitter, and many people died from the waters that had become bitter.
(NIV)
Krakatoa would be a reference to a huge mountain, all ablaze, was thrown into the sea. Volcanoes tend to be all ABLAZE when they are erupting.
World War I, World II, and events like the sinking of the Titanic resulted in large numbers of ships being sunk.
In World War II, thousands of ships/boats were sunk.
Krakatoa would be a reference to a huge mountain, all ablaze, was thrown into the sea. Volcanoes tend to be all ABLAZE when they are erupting.Reference to 1/3 of all ships in the sea being sunk.World War I, World II, and events like the sinking of the Titanic resulted in large numbers of ships being sunk.
In World War II, thousands of ships/boats were sunk.
The 1/3 of all living creatures in the sea would have been killed by depth charging of submarines, explosions from Naval Battles, nuclear bomb testing, as well as Nuclear powered submarines and non-nuclear powered submarines sinking.
Some ships have DEVICES that harm sea creatures. Though I am not worried about President Putin in Russia, I am concerned about UNCLE SAM.
The KGB and Militia tried to stop people from going. But it is reported that 500,000 people saw (the light) at Hrushiv.
A humorous event that happened was that the MILITIA tried to block the road to Hrushiv. They were in the process of chopping down a tree and the wind shifted (ACT OF GOD), and instead of blocking the access to Hrushiv, it landed on the Militia's car/vehicle.
When this happened, one of the militia members threw down and his hat, and proceeded to the apparition site...
This is from the book Witness by Josyp Terelya.
I once spoke to Josyp on the phone. It was about visiting Hrushiv...
This is a Catholic forum, troll. Now go back to handling your snakes.
Dear elCid,
re: “This is a Catholic forum, troll. Now go back to handling your snakes.”
I have such respect for the snakes, that I do NOT handle them.
Neither am I a “troll”. I’ve been a ‘member’ of FR for over 8 years, and if you would lower your nose a little, you might go and read my bio.
But, I digress ... Happy Hallowe’en!
Dear Ann,
I will gladly covet ‘any positive thoughts’ offered, thank you!
Happy Hallowe’en!
Dear topher,
Thank you for revealing your name to me. It is said by some weirdo’s that there is much power in a person’s name. I’m still out with the jury on that one.
My Mojave name (yes, I’m a bona fide half-breed minus the blue chinstripes) is M’Mstamho. You might find that one interesting.
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2. A Navajo code from World War II passed away. Not Mojave, but I lived in both California and Arizona. I am not sure if there is a reservation for the Mojave tribe in Arizona or not.
3. I was trying to post about the one year anniversary of Fatima - 1918/1981, but did not delete everything. I ERRORONEOUSLY left the 1948/1984 stuff in by accident. Sorry.
Just sorry. I was posting way too fast today.
As I just posted the MODERATOR, I am heading for the doghouse. I intend to stay there and spend time in prayer.
Peace, brother.
I did not complete my thought/post when I was posting about 1948/1984. Below is what I wanted to say, and maybe a few more things.
In 1981 two important events happened. One was the attempt to murder President Reagan (April 1981).
On May 13th 1981, the KGB was behind an attempt to murder Pope John Paul II.
1981 reversed like 1948/1984 is 1918/1981. 1918 was the first Anniversary of Fatima.
The three children predicted (1) Russia would spread its errors around the world; (2) there would be another war if people did not change their ways (this was in 1917)
This was before The Red October Revolution in Russia
Because two of the three things came true, Hollywood made the movie Miracle of Fatima
God bless you.
Dear topher,
Thank you for the information.
Dear topher,
re: ‘I am not sure if there is a reservation for the Mojave tribe in Arizona or not. ‘
The Mojave reservation(s) are the only one(s) in both California AND Arizona. The area that has been flooded by the built federal dam, and resulting lake, of the Colorado River lands are home to the Mojave and associated tribes. The federals had to separate the tribe since it, unless recent history has changed, never made a treaty with the federal government.
Father Sebastien Rale reaches New World. This is Ville Marie the place he reaches. It is later renamed Montreal.
Father Rale reaches the New World (according to correct calendar) on October 13, 1689). Note that there were significant events in Europe in 1989 - the falling of the Berlin Wall and Iron Curtain.
Father Rale is known for his Dictionary of the Abenaki Tribe of Native Americans.
It was stolen from Father Rale in 1723 and is now in the Harvard Anthropology Museum.
Interesting aspect of this dictionary is that Father Rale (Jesuit Blackrobe) used a special symbol in his dictionary.
He used a sideways '8' for some pronounciation.
The BRITISH did not understand why.
But Father Rale spoke French. The word for '8' is pronounced like the English word 'wheat'. The French word for eight is: 'huit'.
It might have went over English speaking people that Father Rale was speaking in French, and for that reason, the sideways '8' had special meaning.
Additionally, the first two bishops of Boston, Massachusetts made pilgrimages to the spot where Father Rale was martyred/murdered. There is controversy about Father Rale - the British did not like that he was ILLEGALLY in Maine. After the French-Indian War, the British had control of this land that the Abenaki were in.
The Abenaki Tribe was asked by the American Colonies to fight the British. They made the demand that a Jesuit Blackrobe be sent to minister to the tribe. They did not want English ministers for their religion.
In the Revolutionary War, the Abenaki tribe was the only native American tribe to have an officer in the Revolutionary army.
When the war was over, and the new country the United States of America did not fulfill its promise, the Abenaki tribe had a group go from Maine to see George Washington. The carried the Crucifix that was Father Rale's. In terms of the Roman Catholic church, this was an important relic of Father Rale - if he is considered a saint (a member of the Communion of Saints).
Another way to refer to Father Rale would be: the man who walks with two broken legs. He broke both legs at some point, and it was very painful for him to walk.
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