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To: SoConPubbie

Some Church of Christ folks and Pentecostals truly believe they no longer sin after being saved.

I’ve talked to many who truly believe that to be the case.

They are lying.

1 John 1:8-9


16 posted on 09/29/2017 1:11:51 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Americans are modern day Amorites ripe for destruction)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

The verses just before the one you posted:

This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. 6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth: 7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

I believe the verse you posted to me should be read in the past-tense.

Romans 8:1-4 states that “There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. 2For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. 3For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: 4That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.”

Condemnation comes from sin, nothing else. If you are sinning, you are still in Chapter 7 of Romans where your actions (sin) are condemning you. It is impossible to live in both Romans chapter 7 and Romans chapter 8 simultaneously.

Add to that II Corinthians 5:17-21 where the Apostle Paul states that “Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. 18 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation; 19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ’s stead, be ye reconciled to God. 21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.”

Of what gain did Christ, the Son of God, die on a cross if all he did was replace the Old Testament dispensation of continuous sacrifices of animals to gain forgiveness for our sins, where we continually sin, with a New Testament dispensation that still has us living in our sins and continually sinning and as a result having to go back to him for forgiveness continually?

Christ not only died to give us forgiveness of sins, but to Save us from our sins giving us Victory and power over that sin, that if we cling to Him, and his sacrifice, continuously, He keeps us free from that sin. If we turn our eyes away from Him, then we find ourselves back in sin.


28 posted on 09/29/2017 1:51:44 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

...or greatly deluded.


69 posted on 09/30/2017 7:01:13 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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