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Pope Francis says DACA repeal not "pro-life" and refutes climate change deniers
America Magazine ^ | September 11, 2017 | Gerard O'Connell

Posted on 09/11/2017 8:19:35 AM PDT by ebb tide

On the flight back to Rome from Cartagena on Sept. 10, Pope Francis addressed two questions that are much discussed in the United States today: the situation of the 800,000 Dreamers whose could face deportation and the moral responsibility of governments that deny climate change.

Responding to a question about the negative effects of the suspension of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program in the United States, Pope Francis said that since the president presents himself as pro-life, then he should also be pro-family and not do anything that would be detrimental to the family.

The pope also addressed questions about climate change, saying that those who deny its reality should listen to scientists, who “speak very clearly.” He insisted that people at every level have to take responsibility to care for the environment, since “it’s true that if we don’t turn back we will go down.”

Speaking to reporters shortly after take-off, Francis had a dark mark around his left eye from an accident in the popemobile in Cartagena. He sought to play down the injury saying, “I was leaning down to greet children and then I banged my head.… I now have a puffed eye!” Despite a physically grueling five days visit to Colombia, Francis was in good spirits fielding questions in what he calls “the lion’s den.”

Recalling that whenever Francis meets young people anywhere in the world, he always tells them “don’t let them rob you of hope, don’t let them rob you of your future,” a reporter asked Pope Francis: “Don’t you think that with the abolition of [DACA], young people will lose their joy, their hope, their future?”

While acknowledging that he had not been able to study the DACA decision in detail, Francis spoke about the challenges facing young immigrants more generally, saying that “to take away young people from their families is not something that bears fruit, neither for the young people nor for their families.” Referring to the current negotiations over a legislative solution, the pope expressed “hope that it can be re-thought a little.”

If he is a good pro-life [man] then he will understand that the family is the cradle of life, and that it must be defended as a unit.

Then, in a highly significant remark, Pope Francis referred to President Donald J. Trump, saying, “I have heard it said that the president of the United States presents himself as a man who is pro-life, and if he is a good pro-life [man] then he will understand that the family is the cradle of life, and that it must be defended as a unit.”

Francis added that he was very concerned about the negative effects on young people left without hope and separated from their roots, including the possibility of drug addiction and suicide. He emphasized that “the relationship to their roots are very important for the young”, and observed that “the young are uprooted today, they ask for help, they want to find again their roots, and that is why I insist very much on the dialogue between the young and the elderly.” He concluded: “young people today need to find again their roots, and whatever goes against the roots takes away their hopes.” Noting that he did not want to express himself on an issue he had not studied closely, he repeated his intention to “study it well.”

Francis also responded to a question about the moral responsibility of governments that deny climate change, an issue that is very much on the radar given President Trump’s decision to withdraw from the Paris accords on climate change.

Noting that the extensive damage from hurricanes Harvey and Irma, potentially connected to the warming of the oceans, a reporter asked the pope about the moral responsibility of “politicians who refuse to collaborate with other nations to control emissions” because they deny human responsibility for climate change.

The one who denies [climate change] should go to the scientists, and ask them. They speak very clearly. Scientists are precise.”

Pope Francis rejected climate change denial as strongly as he did in his encyclical on the environment, “Laudato Si’,” saying that “the one who denies this should go to the scientists, and ask them. They speak very clearly. Scientists are precise.”

He recalled recent news reports about the disappearance of ice in the Arctic, and referred to recent studies “that said we have only three years to turn back, otherwise the consequences will be terrible. I don’t know if we have three years or not, but it’s true that if we don’t turn back we will go down.”

Noting that “the scientists say clearly what are the roads to follow,” Francis emphasized that “all of us have a responsibility…and I believe we must take it seriously.”

Addressing the moral responsibility of politicians who deny climate change, Francis said “if one thinks it is not so true, then let that person go and ask the scientists. They are most clear. Theirs is not an airy-fairy opinion, they are most clear. Then let the person decide, and history will judge the decisions.”

Another journalist asked Francis why he thought it took “so long for governments to gain consciousness on this question, while in other areas, like on the question of arms, they can decide quickly?”

There’s a phrase in the Old Testament, I think in one of the psalms, where it says man is stupid; he’s stubborn and does not see.

Pope Francis began his response by noting “there’s a phrase in the Old Testament, I think in one of the psalms, where it says man is stupid; he’s stubborn and does not see.” He added that attachment to money “has effects on creation, and also on so many other questions, like that of arms. There are many contradictions linked to money.”

Francis recalled a visit earlier in the day to a poor neighborhood in Cartagena and where there’s also “the tourist section, luxurious, without any moral measure. But those who go there, they don’t take note, nor do the socio-political analysts.” Francis concluded, “man is stupid, and when he doesn’t want to see, he won’t see, he only looks at one side.”

Pope Francis also fielded several other questions, including one on Venezuela, saying that the UN should act on the humanitarian crisis there. He also addressed questions about his visit to Colombia and how he hopes the peace process will develop and the Italian response to the migrant question.


TOPICS: Catholic; Religion & Politics; Religion & Science
KEYWORDS: francischurch; gwhoax; illegals; treehuggers
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To: dfwgator
Tax the Church!

Remove tax free status from all religious organizations.

All of them
21 posted on 09/11/2017 8:59:31 AM PDT by novemberslady
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To: ebb tide

Wow, this guy could run for President of Sweden.


22 posted on 09/11/2017 9:06:44 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: ebb tide

This is a false Pope, and a false prophet. he is a wolf in sheep’s clothing.


23 posted on 09/11/2017 9:08:30 AM PDT by Cyclops08
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To: ebb tide
Pope Francis rejected climate change denial as strongly as he did in his encyclical on the environment, “Laudato Si’,” saying that “the one who denies this should go to the scientists, and ask them. They speak very clearly. Scientists are precise.”

You have as much of a divinely-granted charism to speak on this topic as I do, Holiness. That is to say: none at all.

Do your job. Your job is to teach Catholicism and govern the church, not pick sides in a scientific debate that isn't even germane to the faith.

24 posted on 09/11/2017 9:08:58 AM PDT by Campion (Halten Sie sich unbedingt an die Lehre!)
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To: ebb tide

A political Pope who is heavy with lecture and secular nonsense does little for a church that needs direction and leadership. His alliances are very suspect. Furthermore,our religion cannot stray from its core beliefs and mission. Maybe the Pope firmly believes He IS doing this,but I whole halfheartedly disagree as do most Catholics that I know of.


25 posted on 09/11/2017 9:16:28 AM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: ebb tide

How can THE POPE not know what the pro-life argument is?


26 posted on 09/11/2017 9:24:00 AM PDT by wastedyears (Anime is real.)
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To: ebb tide

Send the 800,000 and their 2-3 million family members that are here in the US to the Vatican. I’m sure they can find room for them. They want them, they can have them. Bye, bye.


27 posted on 09/11/2017 9:28:22 AM PDT by Reno89519 (Drain the Swamp is not party specific. Lyn' Ted is still a liar, Good riddance to him.)
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To: ebb tide

...the family is the cradle of life, and that it must be defended as a unit.

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Tell that to their families who chose to break the law and bring them here. Don’t split up the families; let all of them leave together.

BTW, Francis, when are you going to speak out about Planned Parenthood?


28 posted on 09/11/2017 9:31:36 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Vacate the chair! Ryan must go.)
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To: Campion

Your job is to teach Catholicism and govern the church, not pick sides in a scientific debate that isn’t even germane to the faith.

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Amen!


29 posted on 09/11/2017 9:34:00 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Vacate the chair! Ryan must go.)
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To: Campion

The Catholic people serve one Master, God. Frankie the Poop works for the Great Deceiver.


30 posted on 09/11/2017 9:36:13 AM PDT by Kalamata (Inside Every Liberal is a Totalitarian Screaming to Get Out - D. Horowitz)
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To: ebb tide
As a Catholic, I consider the Pope, Infallible in matters concerning the Faith.

In almost all other matters, I consider the Pope to be a communist asshole.

31 posted on 09/11/2017 10:02:04 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Kill all mooselimb, terrorist savages, with extreme prejudice! Deus Vult!)
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To: ebb tide
Papa Francisco is the denier - and equally STUPID regarding his theology, and his political statements...
32 posted on 09/11/2017 10:27:34 AM PDT by heterosupremacist (Domine Iesu Christe, Filius Dei, miserere me peccatorem!)
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To: ebb tide

Does the Pope ever have anything to say about the Bible, or Catholic doctrine? All he ever talks about are topics having to do with man’s “wisdom” and social and political policy.


33 posted on 09/11/2017 10:42:00 AM PDT by Cecily
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To: ebb tide

This is a pope stuck on stupid.


34 posted on 09/11/2017 11:54:47 AM PDT by RedMonqey ("Gun-free zones" equal "Target-rich environment.")
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To: Common Sense 101

(HaHa!!)


35 posted on 09/11/2017 11:56:48 AM PDT by RedMonqey ("Gun-free zones" equal "Target-rich environment.")
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To: BookmanTheJanitor
Hey, Pope...No comment on Venezuela's enforcing its Communist, antidemocratic policies?

Hmmmmm.....Why is that?

36 posted on 09/11/2017 12:05:22 PM PDT by RedMonqey ("Gun-free zones" equal "Target-rich environment.")
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To: ebb tide

DACA is illegal and unconstitutional, offers no actual legal or statutory protection to any of the “Dreamers”, and faced possible, even probable, declaration by a court that it is fact illegal and unconstitutional - because it is - leaving them completely left out to dry. Supporting DACA only gives those you claim you care about false hope and no real protection. The President is allowing a 6 months before it is cancelled to allow for Congress to pass an actual statute for him to consider signing that the courts may take judicial notice of - that there is already an effort to correct the situation. The Pope appears to be unaware of any of this based on his remarks...perhaps it would be best if he didn’t comment on things on which he has not informed himself on.


37 posted on 09/11/2017 8:31:55 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: novemberslady

Liberals would love nothing more than for that to happen - a lot of churches would be financially crippled, including all of their charitable work, leaving nothing but the government to come in and take over the void. Pregnancy resource centers could have their role supplanted by Planned Parenthood, disaster relief organizations would have to have more government resources take their place, etc. Your comments are a socialist’s dream come true.


38 posted on 09/11/2017 8:35:35 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: ebb tide

Who is he to judge?


39 posted on 09/12/2017 12:49:24 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (https://imgoat.com/uploads/645920e395/39513.gif)
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To: ebb tide
"The pope also addressed questions about climate change, saying that those who deny its reality should listen to scientists, who “speak very clearly.”

Of course. Sort of like the line of popes starting with Pope Urban VIII in 1633 who condemned Galileo to death for believing that the earth revolved around the sun. Galileo avoided burning at the stake by recanting this heresy. This lie was allowed to stand until 1992 when Pope John Paul II admitted the popes for the past 350 years hadn't listened to scientists, who “speak very clearly".

40 posted on 09/12/2017 4:28:17 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (The stone age didn't end because we ran out of stones.)
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