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To: HarleyD
BTW-It brings discredit on our Lord Jesus ...

He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.

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Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water. Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised;) And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works: Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching. For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

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And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead. Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die: for I have not found thy works perfect before God. Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee. Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with me in white: for they are worthy. He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels. He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.


Matthew, Catholic chapter ten, Protestant verses thirty seven to thirty eight,
Hebrews, Catholic chapter ten, Protestant verses twenty two to thirty one,
Revelation, Catholic chapter three, Protestant verses one to six,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James

172 posted on 09/05/2017 6:22:42 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: af_vet_1981

I’m off on vacation for the next two weeks but I will just say your posts are simply proof Catholics believe 1) a person can lose their salvation, and 2) a person must do works to maintain their salvation. Both are in error and are not according to the traditions laid down by the early church fathers. They are semi-Pelagius in their teachings which is heresy and was condemned by the Church-at least what used to be the Church. They will not save you.

This is where “free will” leads you.


174 posted on 09/06/2017 2:03:41 AM PDT by HarleyD ("There are very few shades of grey."-Dr. Eckleburg)
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