Posted on 09/01/2017 1:40:56 PM PDT by NYer
She didn’t learn that in a Baptist church
Like my wife’s short-lived attendance in an open bible study group.
Every single reading was interpreted by each individual, where each put their personal interpretation (spin) on it, and everyone in turn validated each other.
My very devout evangelical business partner says it is the single biggest problem they face.
No moral absolutes - every verse is wide open to everyone’s own interpretation.
Catholics concerned about watered-down Catholicism have little to concern themselves about compared to the free-wheeling anything goes interpretation of Protestantism.
AMDG
No, she didn’t learn that in church. She also didn’t learn what the Trinity contains from countless sermons. I guess the point is that being exposed to something does note equate to studying it.
Has Roman Catholicism produced an official verse by verse explanation of the texts?
Are you telling me that every article written by Msgr Pope we see posted has been approved by the Vatican?
Is every message delivered in Roman Catholic churches approved by the Vatican?
Further, is every message on Sunday the same in every Roman Catholic Church around the world with no deviation?
That's ridiculous...
Every verse and word in the NT is based off manuscripts and text that has a meaning and historical context...
Very little scripture in the NT is ambiguous...
The problem is people do not study God's word in depth and like having their ears tickled...
Great post!
Then you must not have been to a protestant bible study lately.
Free interpretation much like free association is encouraged - everyone is right all the time!
Protestants believe in the Priesthood of all Believers, which is to say that protestants believe that all Christians have a direct connection with God—there is no need to go through a Priest. That’s not to say that they don’t have Priests or Pastors or other figures of leadership, but they don’t fulfill the role of mediator between man and God, that they do in the Catholic tradition.
As such, every protestant believer is essentially expected to read scripture directly—not simply listen to teachings from scripture, presented by priests (as I know many Catholics choose to do).
This leads to two distinct phenomenon:
Some protestants try for a sort of “Lone Ranger Christian” approach, interpreting scripture on their own, sometimes cherry-picking the interpretations they like, discarding others.
This phenomenon is a point of great criticism from Catholics, but I believe is much more spoken about than actually experienced in practice.
The more common and practical experience is that by encouraging all protestants to do their own Bible study and interpretation, the end result is that all protestants interpret scripture. As the as Proverbs says, iron sharpen iron. When protestants examine scripture individually, and in groups, and discuss their views and opinions, it allows the group as a whole ownership over the interpretation, which can be a big benefit.
Of course, there can be drawbacks, and all methods of scriptural interpretation can be abused.
You can make book on the fact that Msgr Pope is in orthodox agreement with the Magisterium.
Hint: e-mail a bible verse of your choice, although I could suggest a few, to ten members of your church, sect or splinter group and ask the to spent some quality time interpreting the scripture for you.
The diversity of their responses should give any honest protestant of any denomination real concern.
But probably not for you cause your never wrong, just ask youself.
——but they don’t fulfill the role of mediator between man and God, that they do in the Catholic tradition.-—
Eph 4:11
And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers,
Eph 4:12
for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ,
Eph 4:13
till we all come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ;
Eph 4:14
that we should no longer be children, tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in the cunning craftiness of deceitful plotting,
Eph 4:15
but, speaking the truth in love, may grow up in all things into Him who is the head—Christ—
Eph 4:16
from whom the whole body, joined and knit together by what every joint supplies, according to the effective working by which every part does its share, causes growth of the body for the edifying of itself in love.
I see you couldn’t answer my questions.
But that's not really the issue....the issue is he in agreement with the Word?
Hint: e-mail a bible verse of your choice, although I could suggest a few, to ten members of your church, sect or splinter group and ask the to spent some quality time interpreting the scripture for you.
Don't have to. I teach a class on Sundays. I use the Greek to help explain the intent of the writer of the passage(s) being studied. You would be surprised at the agreement over the verses. In full disclosure there is one member with a very different take on things.
The diversity of their responses should give any honest protestant of any denomination real concern.,
You mean like we see among Roman Catholicism on these threads?
There are some ready to excommunicate your current pope.
There are some who are Pre or post V2. Which one are you?
As you subscribe to Roman Catholicism do you support Unam Sanctam?
e-mail a bible verse of your choice, although I could suggest a few, to ten members of your church, sect or splinter group and ask the to spent some quality time interpreting the scripture for you.
The diversity of their responses should give any honest protestant of any denomination real concern.
Still can’t answer my questions I see.
Good job on your references. I’m saving it to my Favorites list. Prepare to be bombarded with denials and weasel words on why what really happened and has been documented isn’t really what happened.
Many other examples as well.
"Authority has a way of descending to certitude, and certitude begets hubris."
I wonder how many Catholics know that during Mass they are not hearing the entire Bible over those three-year cycles? Quite a bit is NEVER covered.
Gosh, that sounds like the same thing Antifa and the liberals say when someone dares express disagreement with them over something!
Can a person say why they dispute something about Catholicism and not be labled a "hater"? NYer posted this thread as an OPEN Religion Forum topic. It is an INVITATION for discussion and it criticizes non-Catholic Christians in the OP. Would non-Catholics be wrong to perceive this as "hatred" towards them? Perhaps you might check your own hatred?
And at what "church" do you hear the entire Bible?
What is your "church"'s calendar? And what "bible" do you subscribe to?
Baloney! Have you been paying attention to all the FR articles posted by certain RCs that criticize and condemn the Pope, Bishops and priests for their "watered down Catholicism"? How about the many polls that show increasing percentages of Catholics worldwide who either are ignorant of or flat out deny many of the basic tenets of Catholicism? Sure doesn't sound like any "freewheeling anything goes" has been avoided to me.
Where in the Bible does it say that the Bible needs to be read in its entirety?
For that matter, where in the Bible does it say the entire Bible must be in every pew at church?
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