Posted on 08/12/2017 7:16:17 PM PDT by ebb tide
Wolfgang Huber, former Council President of the Evangelical Church in Germany (EKD), believes in a "breakthrough" at the communion of Protestants and Catholics to the Ecumenical Church Day of 2021. "I can not imagine that we will celebrate this church day without A breakthrough has been achieved in the area of Eucharistic hospitality, "said the former bishop of Berlin in the interview of the" Weser-Kurier "(Saturday). Until the event in Frankfurt am Main 2021 something must move.
"Machistort des Papstes" less promising
According to Huber, the next steps in the Eucharist and the Lord's Supper will be "decentralized". "My feeling is that Pope Francis wants to broaden the scope of individual bishops' conferences for ecumenically relevant decisions, and sees this path as a more promising one as a central path for the whole world church and a breakthrough through a pope's power," said Huber.
The former bishop of the Evangelical Church of Berlin-Brandenburg-Silesian Oberlausitz was 75 years old on Saturday. Berlin's Archbishop Heiner Koch congratulated him with a congratulatory letter: Koch thanked him especially for the "strong accents" which he had placed both in the Protestant church and in the ecumenism. He praised Huber as a "strong integrator" and recalled that the fusion of the Evangelical Church of Berlin-Brandenburg with the Evangelical Church of the Silesian Oberlausitz fell in his office in 2004.
Huber was born on 12 August 1942 in Strasbourg. From 1994 to 2009 he was a bishop of Berlin, and from 2003 to 2009 he was the presidency of the Evangelical Church in Germany. Before that, he was himself president of the church. In his own words, however, it was self-evident for him to leave the office before his bishop's election. "For me the church day movement is characterized by the fact that it is a lay movement that cooperates with the Church, but on the basis of reciprocal freedom", he explained. At the Kirchentag this year in Berlin and Wittenberg you got the feeling of a joint event. "From the old counterpart of the church and the church day nothing was visible to the outside." He wanted something more friction, however. "Friction generates fire," says Huber. (JHE / KNA)
Powerful statement...You won't burn your way into heaven...When the OT Saints went to Abraham's Bosom they were in a separate compartment far away from the heat...Jesus went there and tore the gates off their hinges (which is still wide open) and led the Saints out of there so the gates of hell would not and could not prevail against the church (Mat. 16:18)...That compartment they like to call purgatory is wide open and can not hold anyone...And there wasn't any heat there to begin with...There is no heat for Christians...
They go into denial that it says what it says.
I agree.
Romans 11:11-16 So I ask, did they stumble in order that they might fall? By no means! Rather, through their trespass salvation has come to the Gentiles, so as to make Israel jealous. Now if their trespass means riches for the world, and if their failure means riches for the Gentiles, how much more will their full inclusion mean!
Now I am speaking to you Gentiles. Inasmuch then as I am an apostle to the Gentiles, I magnify my ministry in order somehow to make my fellow Jews jealous, and thus save some of them. For if their rejection means the reconciliation of the world, what will their acceptance mean but life from the dead? If the dough offered as firstfruits is holy, so is the whole lump, and if the root is holy, so are the branches.
God Bless!
Oh; they'll get over it MUCH better than MORMONS will!!
LDS teaching says there are 3 levels of Heaven.
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HEAVEN-The Mormon church teaches there are three levels of heaven (three "degrees of glory"):
Celestial - for Mormons who have kept ALL of the laws and ordinances of their church.
Terrestrial - for religious people who aren't Mormons and for Mormons who have not met the requirements of the Church.
Telestial - where unbelievers go
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Brigham Young, October 9, 1859
Intelligence, Etc.
Remarks by President BRIGHAM YOUNG, delivered in the Tabernacle, Great Salt Lake City, October 9, 1859.
Reported by G. D. Watt
Journal of Discourses, Vol. 7, p.282-91
They succeeded in killing Joseph, but he had finished his work.He was a servant of God, and gave us the Book of Mormon.He said the Bible was right in the main, but, through the translators and others, many precious portions were suppressed, and several other portions were wrongly translated; and now his testimony is in force, for he has sealed it with his blood.As I have frequently told them, no man in this dispensation will enter the courts of heaven, without the approbation of the Prophet Joseph Smith, Jun.Who has made this so?Have I?Have this people?Have the world?No; but the Lord Jehovah has decreed it.If I ever pass into the heavenly courts, it will be by the consent of the Prophet Joseph.If you ever pass through the gates into the Holy City, you will do so upon his certificate that you are worthy to pass.Can you pass without his inspection?No; neither can any person in this dispensation, which is the dispensation of the fulness of times.In this generation, and in all the generations that are to come, everyone will have to undergo the scrutiny of this Prophet.They say that they killed Joseph, and they will yet come with their hats under their arms and bend to him; but what good will it do them, unless they repent?They can come in a certain way and find favor, but will they?
The Mormons really say that? Then we have a problem. Apollo C Quiboloy says he is the anointed son of God, so I get the sneaking suspicion, that they both can't be right. They may very well both be wrong, but they can't both be right.
Then there is Felix Manalo, the started of the INC. At least Manalo didn't claim that salvation came through him personally. He did, however, claim to be the angel from the east in Revelation 7. It's a load of bunk. It's every bit as much of a cult, as the RCC, Mormons, JWs, and Quiboloy people. 😇😀😆
There you go - Catholics and Mormons and Islamists believe human mortals hold a lot of sway.....
Wow. A Protestant commentator who rejects the Sacrament of Penance. How about that!
“...the Sacrament of Penance. How about that!”
Where in Scripture is a *sacrament of penance*. Taught, Arthur?
In that passage where Jesus says he is giving the apostles the power to forgive sins.
Do you believe in the Trinity. Where in Scripture is “the Trinity” mentioned?
Dear Arthur,
I already addressed your argument about forgiving sin. I also note Christ never says this passed to anyone outside the disciples.
Nor is there such a thing as the sacrament of penance in Scripture.
In regards to the Trinity, the word is not found in Scripture. The descriptive term was adopted to express the truth that Scripture does teach: that the Father, the Son, and the Spirit *all* have the attributes of deity. They are also separate Persons from each other. They are also One God.
All taught in Scripture.
The theological term “Trinity” expresses this truth in a succinct way.
If the absence of the term “Sacrament of Penance” in Scripture proves there is no Sacrament of Penance, then the absence of the term “Trinity” in Scripture proves there is no Trinity.
In other words, the absence of the term “Sacrament of Penance” in Scripture proves absolutely nothing.
So why did you bring it up?
It demonstrates there is no sacrament of penance, except as imported from pagan religion, well after the death of the Apostles.
Pagan much, Arthur?
In other words, Jesus describes a religion, an institution, in which he appoints men to mediate the teaching and the sanctifying activity of Jesus.
God destroyed the temple, the old sacrificial system and the old priestly system and tore the curtain separating himself with us. He wants a personal relationship with us and always has.
It is man that has rebuilt the old system.
+1
[and imported it from paganism, instead of starting from scratch]
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