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The Carnage of Divorce
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 06-29-17 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 06/29/2017 7:47:51 AM PDT by Salvation

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1 posted on 06/29/2017 7:47:52 AM PDT by Salvation
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To: nickcarraway; NYer; ELS; Pyro7480; livius; ArrogantBustard; Catholicguy; RobbyS; marshmallow; ...

Monsignor Pope Ping!


2 posted on 06/29/2017 7:50:10 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

I find myself in complete agreement. Well written and well said.


3 posted on 06/29/2017 7:50:54 AM PDT by Persevero (Democrats haven't been this nutty since we freed their slaves.)
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I cannot recommend this book enough. It is a healing for those who have suffered and, I pray, a strong medicine to prevent divorce. As Christians, let’s remember that God designed marriage to be what is best for children. The truest happiness any father or mother can find will be the knowledge that they made the sacrifices necessary to be sure that their children were raised well and prepared for life here, and even more, for eternal life.
4 posted on 06/29/2017 7:51:57 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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I'm listening to the video and the most shocking thing to the author was the fact that children were never asked about how they feel about their parents getting a divorce.
5 posted on 06/29/2017 7:54:50 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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A peer ministry for the divorced —

http://www.beginningexperience.org/php5/index.html


6 posted on 06/29/2017 7:57:30 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

In my opinion it is much better to never get married, than to deal with the destruction of divorce.


7 posted on 06/29/2017 8:04:23 AM PDT by neverevergiveup
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To: Salvation

Bumping to the top...


8 posted on 06/29/2017 8:06:38 AM PDT by redhead (Pray for Christians in the middle east. Crucified, beheaded, burned for their faith)
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To: Salvation

The Holy Trinity requires one thing of us when it comes to our connection to our heavenly father. All we’re asked to do is Speak it out loud.

When we pray, we pray with our voice. We actually speak - even when no one is there. Many other cultures and religions allow it’s followers to “pray silently” or “Meditate and think the prayers”.

We are asked to speak them out. In our regular voices.

When we promise to god to honor our wedding vows, we do that aloud. In this way, God can hear us. We don’t just internalize our vows - we speak it. This is how we commune.

So there is no way that God would “allow” this vow to be broken. There is pretzel logic that is found through mental gymnastics because people feel that God can hear their thoughts, and must think their thoughts are pure and good.

Of course, being all-knowing - God can hear thoughts. But that’s not the point. You are allowed your thoughts. It’s when you speak out - using your voice - a vow to God that things become real.

There are very few purposes that Divorce should be considered, and I don’t believe that Divorce should be removed from the picture. But it’s too easy, it’s too easily justified by the pleebs seeking it and the concept of Divorce isn’t fully understood because the concept of Marriage isn’t fully understood. And the concept of Marriage isn’t fully understood because Prayer isn’t fully understood.

And people need to be taught.


9 posted on 06/29/2017 8:10:48 AM PDT by Celerity
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I am watching my son go through this crap now. He was an altar boy but quit going to mass when he joined the army. My wife and I have had our hard times and each has accused the other of wanting divorce at one time or another but we managed. Now neither of us can see how anything would have turned out as well if there had been a divorce.


10 posted on 06/29/2017 8:14:00 AM PDT by arthurus
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If there are children in the picture, don’t worry, they’ll adjust; kids are resilient.

A few years ago, someone (I don't recall who) phrased it "The children have to be adults because their parents aren't willing to be".

11 posted on 06/29/2017 8:15:40 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Salvation

That’s right. Stay married to a drunken abuser. That’s even better for children than divorce.


12 posted on 06/29/2017 8:18:15 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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Well....I survived my mother’s 3 marriages and father’s 4? Marriages (didn’t really know any of them except my mother)...but survived is the key word. Still feeling effects, and I’m in my 60s. Bi polar, narcissm, alcholism and depression for them didn’t help.


13 posted on 06/29/2017 8:33:09 AM PDT by goodnesswins (Say hello to President Trump)
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Over three divorces, I was asked once. I still remember being so shocked to be asked. I didn’t know how to respond. So I replied “I don’t know.” And that was the end of that.


14 posted on 06/29/2017 8:41:18 AM PDT by Persevero (Democrats haven't been this nutty since we freed their slaves.)
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From the article:

“This essay is not to be construed as a general condemnation of all who are divorced.”


15 posted on 06/29/2017 8:41:48 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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And then hoes on to offer no exceptions or situations where divorce, though awful, is still better than staying married


16 posted on 06/29/2017 8:46:24 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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Dr Laura rule seems appropriate to me as reasons for divorce....Adultery, addiction, abuse...the 3 As


17 posted on 06/29/2017 8:54:17 AM PDT by goodnesswins (Say hello to President Trump)
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Did you see the disclaimer at the end of the article?


18 posted on 06/29/2017 9:09:14 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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God bless both of you for working things out.


19 posted on 06/29/2017 9:10:11 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Can you recommend a Marriage Encounter weekend to your son?

http://www.wwme.org/


20 posted on 06/29/2017 9:12:38 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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