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Posted on 06/28/2017 9:04:53 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
~ Plinio Corrêa de Oliveira
Considering the disaster that is the current pope, harping on Luther seems a waste of effort
I would ask the Religion Moderator if this is acceptable?
Dr. Luther, living rent-free in Catholic heads for 500 years.
And the best you can do to argue against him is spend pages upon pages ultimately doing nothing but calling him a poopy head.
That’s hilarious, that you can’t even bring up sensible arguments without resorting to ad hominem attacks.
qq moar m8s.
It seems that the Catholics need to be reminded from time to time that this was founded as a protestant country. Perhaps if they don’t like it, they should move to the Vatican and live near their king in a pointed hat.
Considering the disaster that is the current pope, harping on Luther seems a waste of effort
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From what I can see, they loathe Pope Frankie, but the problem is that they spent their entire lives hating on Dr. Luther. And they can’t seem to come to grips with the fact that they’re doing exactly what Dr. Luther did.
So these attacks on Dr. Luther are little more than virtue signalling to try to assuage the cognitive dissonance.
And they’re irrational hatred of Luther is just what the NWO wants: Catholics and Protestants fighting while the Muslims sharpen their swords.
Except that this Pope is determined to merge the Catholic Church with the Lutherans—and the Lutherans he has chosen are the pro-abortion, lesbian-bishop Lutherans in Sweden.
I predict that sometime before October 31, Bergoglio will CONCELEBRATE the Novus Novus Ordo “mass,” with silence between the Gloria and the Our Father, with lesbian Lutheran bishops. It will be, of course, no mass at all, with no actual consecration. The “communion” that takes place will be “simulation of a sacrament.”
I further predict that hardly a peep will be heard from the Catholic hierarchy.
Show me where the word “Protestant” appears in the Declaration or the Constitution.
The gospel is not man-centered nor is it dependent on the whims of man or his winds of doctrine which toss God's people to and fro by man's sleight whereby they lie in wait to deceive (Eph 4:14).
Instead, "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness" (2 Tim 3:16).
Excellent article, authored by a Jesuit (back when Jesuits were Catholic).
(I could be wrong, but...)
Bingo. Don’t care much what Luther thought/did. Or the “Popes” for that matter. Only what is in scripture. I know what I believe, and why I believe it. I’ve read it.
You’re wanting to start a flame war?
What? Did you wake up this morning and say to yourself, “Gee, I’m bored. Maybe I should go needlessly stir up some sh*t.”
In any case, get your asbestos shorts on because here it comes...
I concur. I am heartily sick of Luther bashing on FR and I lose patience over feeble and vapid rationalizations to do so with impunity. Or are you convinced the Reformation occurred in a vacuum and that committed Lutherans (Missouri Synod) are not worthy of consideration or respect on this forum? Do the planet a favor and give it a rest.Enough!
Isn’t it just facts about Luther?
“It seems that the Catholics need to be reminded from time to time that this was founded as a protestant country. Perhaps if they don’t like it, they should move to the Vatican and live near their king in a pointed hat.”
It seems that the Protestant anti-Catholics need to be reminded from time to time that this was founded as a Protestant country by Protestants running away from Protestant oppression in Europe. Since all Protestants claim some authority - yet possess none except by acclaim - they can only create societies that go from oppression to freedom to license and finally atheism and complete immorality. This means anyone can come here - including non-Protestants - and the very thought of obeying laws or insisting there are laws becomes onerous to others and their precious snowflake feelings. Perhaps if they - the Protestants - don’t like it, they should move to the Vatican and live near the pope they hate.
Not true. Catholics were in the United States before any protestants.
There is no sensible arguments about a small-time priest, barely out of the seminary, that thought he was an authority on the Catholic Church. Luther was a little-known Catholic priest, with no authority whatsoever to question anything. It was his whacky followers that tore Christianity apart.
“I concur. I am heartily sick of Luther bashing on FR and I lose patience over feeble and vapid rationalizations to do so with impunity.”
It’s 2017 - 500th anniversary of the Protestant Revolution. Get used to it.
“Or are you convinced the Reformation occurred in a vacuum and that committed Lutherans (Missouri Synod) are not worthy of consideration or respect on this forum?”
WELS and CLC would disagree with you about which synod represents “committed Lutherans”. They make LCMS look like Liberals.
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