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To: Luircin
That is a direct quote from the Apostle Paul. Do you believe it?

Yes

The LORD Jesus Christ is speaking in the Book of Revelation about "works" (twelve times to seven churches), telling everyone with ears to hear to do what He says about "works," not "works of the law."

Do you believe it?

And this is a direct quote from the Apostle Paul

writing that God will render unto every man according to his deeds, either immortality and eternal life or indignation and wrath. Do you believe it?

Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things. But we are sure that the judgment of God is according to truth against them which commit such things. And thinkest thou this, O man, that judgest them which do such things, and doest the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God? Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance? But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God; Who will render to every man according to his deeds: To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life: But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile; But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile: For there is no respect of persons with God. For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law; (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified. For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;) In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.

Romans, Catholic chapter two, Protestant verses one to sixteen,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James

205 posted on 06/20/2017 4:58:13 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: af_vet_1981
Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself;
229 posted on 06/20/2017 6:14:52 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: af_vet_1981

Yes. I do believe it. In fact I believe it enough that I want to study it and figure out what it means in relation to all the other words of the Apostles, Prophets, etc.

You seem to be under the false impression that Protestants are antinomians, and all the arguments that I have seen are attacking that non-existent stance of mine.


230 posted on 06/20/2017 6:53:10 AM PDT by Luircin
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To: af_vet_1981

Allow me to share with you something else from the Apostle.

“10 By the grace God has given me, I laid a foundation as a wise builder, and someone else is building on it. But each one should build with care. 11 For no one can lay any foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12 If anyone builds on this foundation using gold, silver, costly stones, wood, hay or straw, 13 their work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each person’s work. 14 If what has been built survives, the builder will receive a reward. 15 If it is burned up, the builder will suffer loss but yet will be saved—even though only as one escaping through the flames.”

(1 Corinthians 3)

It seems pretty clear here that it is ONLY the foundation in Christ that offers salvation.

Works are important, and works affect eternal life, but it is Jesus who saves, NOT works. JESUS is the foundation, and only he. Not our own works.

As I said in my first post, you seem to think that Protestants are antinomians, and you are posting passages about the importance of obedience to God’s Law.

Whereas the vast majority of Protestants love and want to obey God’s Law, do good deeds, et cetera. So why are you trying to argue against me in that?

And while we’re at it, ‘works’ and ‘works of the Law’ are the same thing. Paul uses them as synonyms, and if you insist I can come up with chapter and verse about salvation coming NOT from works.


231 posted on 06/20/2017 7:04:10 AM PDT by Luircin
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To: af_vet_1981

We seem to be getting hung up on ‘works’ v. ‘works of the Law.’ Okay, allow me to nip THAT in the bud.

“8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast.” Paul’s letter to the Ephesians.

Do you believe it?


232 posted on 06/20/2017 7:06:15 AM PDT by Luircin
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