Posted on 05/11/2017 6:58:59 AM PDT by Morgana
SALT LAKE CITY — The LDS Church, the oldest and largest charter organization of the Boy Scouts of America, will drop Scouting from its Young Men's program for boys ages 14 through 17.
Effective Jan. 1, the move will carve about 180,000 Mormon boys from the Varsity and Venturing Scout programs in the United States and Canada, replacing them with activities created for boys in those age groups by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
The church will continue to sponsor Cub Scouts for boys 8 to 10 and Boy Scout programs for those 11 through 13 in those two countries, but statements released by the church about the announcement signaled that it may drop those programs in the future, too.
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It is strange, in CA, our strongest scouts came from the Mormon Church, Maybe that’s a little bit of an exaggeration, but not much.
I hope the Mormons know what they are doing.
The older scout groups were where adults were made.
Wouldn’t it make more sense to drop the scouting program for YOUNGER boys, who might be more impressionable?
Uh, the national organization IS the BSA. How do you manage a do-it-yourself conglomeration of disparate scouting units without a cohesive mission, standard, and policy?
What you recommend would BOLSTER the inclusion of girls thinking they're boys in scouting (if a troop wanted it.) The national organization is simply wrong on this issue.
“What you recommend would BOLSTER the inclusion of girls thinking they’re boys”
You think “disparate scouting units without a cohesive mission, standard, and policy” is bad.
I think most troops that are “disparate scouting units without a cohesive mission, standard, and policy” will be a good experience for the kids.
If you don’t have a cohesive organization in the core tenets, then you don’t have an organization, by definition.
“If you don’t have a cohesive organization in the core tenets, then you don’t have an organization, by definition.”
An individual troop is an organization.
Do you believe that it takes national-level leadership to insure that the kids are properly guided?
If you do then you have little faith in an individual or a small group to the right thing.
So, an individual scout troop of atheists can form and call themselves "Boy Scouts of America" after they excise the Scout Oath and Law of any mention of God and reverence?
You really have no idea what you're talking about.
“can form and call themselves “Boy Scouts of America””
They’d want to use a different name.
Be specific: what do I say that makes no sense to you?
You’re implying that a group which is a member of a national organization can make their own rules, independent of the larger organization. That is antithetical to the reason for “grouping” in the first place.
But you are right, they would have to use a different name. In other words, they would no long be a unit of the Boy Scouts of America.
A group that is part of a national group cannot defy the rules of the national group. The smaller group can only make rules that don’t conflict with the national rules.
The alternative is to get out of the national organization. Isn’t that what the Mormons are doing?
Is there anything terrible about a group of boys interested in nature, etc., that isn’t part of the Boy Scouts of America?
That's not what we're talking about here, though, is it?
Your 1st reply was about a cohesive organization.
A group of boys interested in nature can make some rules for theie group, and voila that’s an organization.
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