Our Blessed Mother’s Urgent Call

Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 05-09-17 | Msgr. Charles Pope

[Luircin]

You’re welcome.

Now back to trying to deal with the people who just called us devil-worshippers on this thread...

[af_vet_1981]

I have no idea what that has to do with what I posted.

That makes the point. You asked two questions and addressed them to "all." Perhaps if you say the scripture orally and hear it audibly you might discern what was apparently missed by reading it.

[metmom]

Wasn’t someone recently just claiming that Catholics never engage in *anti-Protestant bigotry*?

[BipolarBob]

That makes the point.

Not to me it didn't and since I'm the intended recipient I'm thinking it should have been a little clearer. I did focus on "Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard" as the probable message you were trying to convey. But the timeline suggests there were probable eyewitnesses still alive at the time of this message. That would command more gravitas than some tradition that has centuries to be molded and massaged to someones liking.

[Luircin]

Yeah, how about that?

Go figure!

[af_vet_1981]

You asked two questions.
1. Will I be doomed to Hell for trusting Gods Word too much?
2. Will Jesus judge me harshly by rebuking me with “You should have thrown a little tradition in there, sorry”.

1. The LORD Jesus Christ spoke the criteria by which He "will not blot out his name out of the book of life" for a member of one of His churches. It applies to any who have "ears to hear" and all who read it are blessed.
2. The second question essentially asked whether apostolic tradition should be heeded and whether one would be rebuked and judged if it was ignored. You correctly identified that the transmission of the truth was at least in part oral. "Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent." This matters because there is a wide disparity of interpretation in doctrine when modern individuals decide for themselves what something means and what they should believe.

And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God; I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see. As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne. He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

Revelation, Catholic chapter three, Protestant verses fourteen to twenty two,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James

[BipolarBob]

This matters because there is a wide disparity of interpretation in doctrine when modern individuals decide for themselves what something means and what they should believe.

Well God left us a Book to read and a mind to think. I think I should take responsibility for my eternal soul and future and NOT trust it to any denomination or religion in conflict with Gods Word. IF I have faith that Jesus died for my sins and prove that faith by my works then all will be well. I may stumble and falter at times but pick myself up and get back on the right road. All praise goes to God and Him alone for what He has promised and provided. Praise be to God in the highest.

[Arthur McGowan]

You seem to think that denying sola scriptura entails disparaging Scripture.

Scripture is the inspired, inerrant Word of God. Are you ignorant of the fact that this is the teaching of the Catholic Church? Apparently.

It’s amazing how virulent, obsessive anti-Catholics like you routinely expose themselves as abjectly ignorant of the most central Catholic teachings.

[af_vet_1981]

Well God left us a Book to read and a mind to think.

When was the Book compiled ?

Who did He entrust the Book to ?

[metmom]

When was the Book compiled ?

Doesn't matter.

Who did He entrust the Book to ?

Jews.

[metmom]

You seem to think that denying sola scriptura entails disparaging Scripture.

Well, yeah, cause it is.

If Scripture is not good enough for the Catholic church that it feels the need to add to tradition, why should I trust their tradition?

If they didn't get it right the first time around, why should anyone expect them to get it right the second time around.

BTW, what's missing from Scripture that we need to know for salvation that the Catholic church feels that it needed to add later on?

[PraiseTheLord]

I know the answer !

HE didn’t leave *a book* ! Some compiled it LATER !

WHEN: A few years into the Catholic Church !

[ Am I ever glad I’m a Catholic -— where everything makes sense ! ]

Just PRAISE THE LORD !

[metmom]

He left Scripture, which later got compiled.

Compiling it is no big deal.

ANYONE could have done it.

[PraiseTheLord]

ANYONE could have done it.
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Except that not *just anyone* could have done it CORRECTLY !

[BipolarBob]

Just PRAISE THE LORD !

Sounds like your praising the Catholic Church instead to me. I guess the Inquisition made sense and Elsies naughty Pope list and selling indulgences made sense. This Fatimas call to repeat the Rosary ad nauseum makes sense although Matthew 6:7 says not to do that.

[PraiseTheLord]

So sad, someone has brainwashed you with bad and wrong anti-Catholic nonsense. But what else is new.

As for me and my house ! I know The Lord and I know the Truth !

Praise The Lord !

[Luircin]

Which part is nonsense?

[Sontagged]

I knew a TV actress once, who was high on cocaine one night and had a visitation of Mary.

Or what she thought was “Mary”.

Turns out many people on her show were actual Satanists and this was some of the spiritual baggage: demonic visitations.

Spooky stuff: the Devil is wily

[BipolarBob]

Well, I admire your enthusiasm and hope you keep it. Remember it is God that saves and not the denomination.
Peace be unto you

[metmom]

2 Corinthians 11:14-15 And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds.