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To: ebb tide

If anyone thinks this is a new thing, they’re in for a rude awakening.

My cousin’s husband (who’m I despise) got TWO annulments (both marriages produced children) and he and my cousin got married in the church lol.

Hard to be taken seriously when you allow stuff like that.

This was THIRTY years ago. Nothing new.

Anything’s for sale when men are in charge.


2 posted on 03/18/2017 8:11:19 PM PDT by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: dp0622

The production of children is irrelevant.

So, someone you despise got annulments that you disapprove of!

Who died and made you God?


3 posted on 03/18/2017 8:25:34 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (https://youtu.be/IYUYya6bPGw)
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To: dp0622
An annulment is a finding that a sacramental marriage never took place, usually because the consent given in the vows is defective in some way.

Having children proves that the plumbing works, not that the consent to the marriage was legitimate. Children are conceived through rape, after all; I hope we would all agree that there's certainly no valid matrimonial consent there.

Given that, I'm not sure why you would jump to the conclusion that your cousin's husband annulments basically amounted to bribery.

12 posted on 03/19/2017 4:42:25 AM PDT by Campion (Halten Sie sich unbedingt an die Lehre!)
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To: dp0622
Yes, nothing new since Vatican II. One person receiving two annulments would never have happened 50+ years ago.

Fifty years ago in 1968 ...before Vatican II was in full force and before "Saint" JPII codified the Second Vatican Council by promulgating his 1983 New Code of Canon Law which added new psychological impediments (among others) to valid marriages.... the TOTAL number of annulments granted in the US was 338. Between 1984 and 1994 638,000 annulments were granted.

All before Francis.

14 posted on 03/19/2017 5:58:36 AM PDT by piusv (Pray for a return to the pre-Vatican II (Catholic) Faith)
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To: dp0622

Make that heretical men and I have no issue. The Second Vatican Council was replete with heretical men. And if there weren’t enough at that time, a great many more were aded since.

Yet was to me is truly amazing, is that while Catholic annulments are rarely rejected (they are on occasion), the pope (in his Amoris Laetitia) is arguing that an annulment may not even be necessary for one to re-marry. can the Second Coming really be that far away?


19 posted on 03/19/2017 4:39:16 PM PDT by tomsbartoo (St Pius X watch over us)
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