Are you saying that you do not believe in Christ?
And the choices he made for apostles?
Most of them single and celibate!!
And the choices he made for apostles?
Most of them single and celibate!!
Nobody knows that and Scripture is silent on whether *most* of them were single/celibate. You can't state that as fact as Scripture is silent on the issue.
Peter wasn't and he is the guy you guys claim is the first pope.
Jesus clearly didn't have a problem with Peter being married.
Don't know why Catholics think marriage is so unworthy of people.
What a pompous thing to accuse a poster of, cleverly hidden behind a question mark.
Then you seem to go off on to another foolish question.
Born again non-Catholic Christians will never follow your legalistic tradition laden version of Christianity called Catholicism.
BTW using only the term (as you did) "Christ" could mean anything.
Christians follow and believe in the Christ with a first name; Jesus.
And the choices he made for apostles?
Most of them single and celibate!!
Do we not have a right to take along a believing wife, even as the rest of the apostles and the brothers of the Lord and Cephas? 1 Corinthians 9:5 NASB
Guess roman catholics have a different version of history.
“Most of them single and celibate”
“Most” is not an ‘exclusivity’ of either one or the other in the eyes of God.
Are you saying that you do not believe in Christ? And the choices he made for apostles? Most of them single and celibate!!
What in Catholicism effects such absurd logic and conclusions? Rather than rejecting the requirement of a clerical celibacy meaning a rejection of Christ, the poster correctly states that this is not a part of Christ’s teachings, even though it may be allowed, (Mt. 19:10-12) but which is an exception in Scripture for pastors (1Tim. 3:1-7), and normally presupposes one has that gift, which has holy advantages. (1Co. 7:7,32-34)
And rather than rejecting the choices the Lord made for apostles, with most of them single and celibate, even their street-level leader was married, as were all but two apostles.
And he arose out of the synagogue, and entered into Simon's house. And Simon's wife's mother was taken with a great fever; and they besought him for her. And he stood over her, and rebuked the fever; and it left her: and immediately she arose and ministered unto them. (Luke 4:38-39)
Have we not power to lead about a sister, a wife, as well as other apostles, and as the brethren of the Lord, and Cephas? (1 Corinthians 9:5)
They evidently did leave their families for a time in devotion to discipleship and ministry, however this was not permanent, nor was Peter and Barnabas under a vow of celibacy, for they had the power (exousia; liberty: cf. 1 1Co. 8:9) to lead about a wife as the rest of the apostles.
And the requirement of clerical celibacy was indeed a latter development Catholic Dues finds:
Early heretics, such as Manichaeans and Montanists, added a negative influence by proclaiming that sexual expression - including that of the laity - was impure. Catholic leaders, such as St. Augustine, taught that Original Sin was transmitted through intercourse. Therefore, abstinence and virginity was the ideal life and only the weak should marry. However, most bishops and presbyters continued to marry. In fact, the only marriages that had to have any kind of blessing were those of deacons and priests. (p. 168)
The tradition of celibacy continued to evolve. In some places it was expected that priests be not sexually active after ordination. When monastic spirituality became popular in the fourth and fifth centuries, it promoted the ideal of celibacy as a model for all priests.
One way church authority enforced celibacy was by ordaining monks, who took the vow of chastity, to evangelize large areas of Europe. Church authority continued to mandate celibacy. The First Lateran Council (1123-1153) forbade those in orders to marry and ordered all those already married to renounce their wives and do penance. Later legislation declared the marriages of clerics not only illegal but also invalid. Widespread disregard of these laws continued until a reorganization of preparation for priesthood following the Protestant Reformation and the Council of Trent in the 1500's. (Greg Dues, "Catholic Customs & Traditions: A Popular Guide," [1992]; pp. 168,169 )
You therefore owe LibFreeUSA an apology for essentially charging him with not believing in Christ
As usual, you haven’t a clue that you are spittling falsehoods in the name of Catholic truth.