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Francis urges priests to ‘welcome’ cohabitating couples in the ‘style of the Gospel’ [Cath Cauc]
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| February 27, 2017
| Jan Bentz
Posted on 02/27/2017 3:45:40 PM PST by ebb tide
Pope Francis urged parish priests participating in a Vatican-run course titled the New Marriage Procedure to welcome cohabitating couples living in fornication who prefer to live together without getting married. The pope did not ask priests to admonish such couples for living in grave sin nor did he ask them to work for their conversion and repentance.
At the same time, make yourselves close with the style of the Gospel itself, in the encounter and welcome of those young people that prefer living together without getting married, he told priests at the Saturday, February 25 event organized by the Roma Rota, the Vaticans highest ecclesiastical court.
On the spiritual and moral plane, they are among the poor and the little ones, toward whom the Church, following in the footsteps of her Teacher and Lord, wants to be a Mother that does not abandon but comes close and takes care. These persons are also loved by Christs heart. This care of the last, precisely because it emanates from the Gospel, is an essential part of your work of promotion and defense of the Sacrament of Marriage, he added.
Last year Francis said that cohabitating couples are in a real marriage and receive the grace of the Sacrament. Ive seen a lot of fidelity in these cohabitations, and I am sure that this is a real marriage, they have the grace of a real marriage because of their fidelity, he said at that time.
The Catechism of the Catholic Church calls fornication gravely contrary to the dignity of persons and of human sexuality which is naturally ordered to the good of spouses and the generation and education of children.
It further states that situations such as cohabitation offend against the dignity of marriage; they destroy the very idea of the family; they weaken the sense of fidelity. They are contrary to the moral law. The sexual act must take place exclusively within marriage. Outside of marriage it always constitutes a grave sin and excludes one from sacramental communion.
The formative course was designed to teach parish priests working in their own respective diocesan courts on marriage annulments, and other related matters, how to implement the changes of the two Motu Proprio, Mitis Iudex and Misericors Jesus, with Amoris Laetitia giving the larger framework.
Francis told the priests that for every person and every situation you are called to be fellow travelers to witness and support.
He urged them to support all couples who have determined by themselves that their marriage is invalid and want it officially declared as such.
When you offer this witness, may your care be also to support all those who have realized the fact that their union is not a true sacramental marriage and want to come out of this situation. In this delicate and necessary work, proceed in such a way that your faithful recognize you not so much as experts of bureaucratic acts or juridical norms, but as brothers who put themselves in an attitude of listening and of understanding, he said.
Francis stated that priests are often the first representative of the Church to whom young people encounter when they get married and at the same time the first to whom they turn when their marriage is in crisis.
It is you to whom the spouses turn, when serious problems in their relation occur and they find themselves in crisis and have the need to revamp the faith and rediscover the grace of the sacrament; and in some cases ask indications to begin a process of annulment.
The process of discernment he left in the hands of the individual in their parish since nobody better than you knows and is in contact with the reality of the social grid of that territory, and experiences the various complexities.
TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: fornicators; francischurch; sin
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To: af_vet_1981
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posted on
02/27/2017 7:49:22 PM PST
by
ebb tide
(We have a rogue curia in Rome)
To: af_vet_1981
This is a Catholic Caucus thread.
42
posted on
02/27/2017 7:50:44 PM PST
by
ebb tide
(We have a rogue curia in Rome)
To: af_vet_1981
What is distinguished by strict observance of the traditional and written law, and commonly held to have pretensions to superior sanctity ?
So you believe that sacramental marriage is a pretension of superior sanctity as compared to living in a state of mortal sin by cohabiting?
Pathetic.
43
posted on
02/27/2017 8:02:00 PM PST
by
ebb tide
(We have a rogue curia in Rome)
To: ebb tide
This is a Catholic Caucus thread.
Yes it is; it is not a SSPX Caucus thread; a Catholic Caucus thread; I would expect more respect toward the Catholic Pope on such a thread.
44
posted on
02/27/2017 8:03:38 PM PST
by
af_vet_1981
(The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
To: ebb tide
So you believe that sacramental marriage is a pretension of superior sanctity as compared to living in a state of mortal sin by cohabiting?
Nope; wrong answer
45
posted on
02/27/2017 8:04:18 PM PST
by
af_vet_1981
(The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
To: af_vet_1981
46
posted on
02/27/2017 8:04:41 PM PST
by
ebb tide
(We have a rogue curia in Rome)
To: ebb tide
Bergoglio made that statement as Pope. He wasnt in Argentina. But it seems like you think hes right.
Pope Francis gave that interview in 2016. He was born in Argentina and was reminiscing about his pastoral experiences there.
47
posted on
02/27/2017 8:04:54 PM PST
by
af_vet_1981
(The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
To: af_vet_1981
I know it. I posted the thread and I expect a more Catholic pope than Bergoglio.
48
posted on
02/27/2017 8:06:56 PM PST
by
ebb tide
(We have a rogue curia in Rome)
To: ebb tide
Im sorry you are on Bergoglios and ...
I realize you are sorry; you wrote that once before; the rest is a further example buttressing my original point about fake propoganda. Even the Apostle Paul was rebuked and accepted that rebuke when spoke ill of another religious leader.
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posted on
02/27/2017 8:08:14 PM PST
by
af_vet_1981
(The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
To: af_vet_1981
My post wasn’t an answer. It was question which you refuse to answer.
50
posted on
02/27/2017 8:08:26 PM PST
by
ebb tide
(We have a rogue curia in Rome)
To: af_vet_1981
51
posted on
02/27/2017 8:10:18 PM PST
by
ebb tide
(We have a rogue curia in Rome)
To: af_vet_1981
Was he right, in your opinion?
52
posted on
02/27/2017 8:12:22 PM PST
by
ebb tide
(We have a rogue curia in Rome)
To: ebb tide
Paul? Not Peter?
Paul, not Peter
It is vital that the scriptures permeate our hearts, be on the tips of our tongues, so to speak all the time, to guard us from sins which do so easily beset us.
53
posted on
02/27/2017 8:12:42 PM PST
by
af_vet_1981
(The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
To: ebb tide
And Paul, earnestly beholding the council, said, Men and brethren, I have lived in all good conscience before God until this day. And the high priest Ananias commanded them that stood by him to smite him on the mouth. Then said Paul unto him, God shall smite thee, thou whited wall: for sittest thou to judge me after the law, and commandest me to be smitten contrary to the law? And they that stood by said, Revilest thou God's high priest? Then said Paul, I wist not, brethren, that he was the high priest: for it is written, Thou shalt not speak evil of the ruler of thy people.
Acts, Catholic chapter twenty three, Protestant verses one to five,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James
54
posted on
02/27/2017 8:15:03 PM PST
by
af_vet_1981
(The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
To: ebb tide
Was he right, in your opinion?
Let a man so account of us, as of the ministers of Christ, and stewards of the mysteries of God. Moreover it is required in stewards, that a man be found faithful. But with me it is a very small thing that I should be judged of you, or of man's judgment: yea, I judge not mine own self. For I know nothing by myself; yet am I not hereby justified: but he that judgeth me is the Lord. Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise of God.
First Corinthians, Catholic chapter four, Protestant verses one to five,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James
55
posted on
02/27/2017 8:18:15 PM PST
by
af_vet_1981
(The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
To: af_vet_1981
Do you even know what St Paul said about fornicators?
I highly doubt that you or Bergoglio do know. Or else just ignore him.
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posted on
02/27/2017 8:19:31 PM PST
by
ebb tide
(We have a rogue curia in Rome)
To: af_vet_1981
Are you Catholic or Protestant? Why do you quote different bibles?
57
posted on
02/27/2017 8:20:56 PM PST
by
ebb tide
(We have a rogue curia in Rome)
To: af_vet_1981
It was a yes or no question.
Why won’t you answer it?
58
posted on
02/27/2017 8:22:39 PM PST
by
ebb tide
(We have a rogue curia in Rome)
To: ebb tide
Do you even know what St Paul said about fornicators?
I highly doubt that you or Bergoglio do know.
Yes, and I note the other sins he mentioned with fornication (porneia).
Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
Galatians, Catholic chapter five, Protestant verses nineteen to twenty one ,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James
59
posted on
02/27/2017 8:28:56 PM PST
by
af_vet_1981
(The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
To: ebb tide
Are you Catholic or Protestant?
I believe in one holy catholic apostolic church.
Why do you quote different bibles?
Because I have liberty
60
posted on
02/27/2017 8:30:11 PM PST
by
af_vet_1981
(The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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