Why is it not good enough for you?
And who are you that he answers to you about posting?
Posted on 02/04/2017 5:55:17 PM PST by marshmallow
Edited on 02/04/2017 6:26:43 PM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]
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The source is in the first box, but you knew that.
Galatians 5:1 For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, and do not submit again to a yoke of slavery.
John 8:36 So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.
John 8:31-32 So Jesus said to the Jews who had believed him, “If you abide in my word, you are truly my disciples, and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”
Why is it not good enough for you?
And who are you that he answers to you about posting?
It should not be a problem for anyone here to give the source url of a quoted post upon request.
Against the law in Italy to publicly defame (not merely criticize) the pope. The rapid and thorough removal of the posters is SOP by the authorities, has happened with other popes.
And whose job is it to determine these lines ("primarily as," "not an exercise of his teaching office"), and indeed what source assuredly tell us what magisterial level each and every papal teaching falls under, full or in part, so that the proper level of assent may be given, and have assurance what is of God and eliminated the divisions RCs tell us we need to the pope to solve?
We just finished(?) a 1600 post thread relative to this.
Do you think basically all papal teaching on faith and morals, or even the pope's latest social encyclical requires ordinary, religious assent? Or just parts of it? If so or not, do you think that allows for public dissent?
Encyclicals need to be treated more seriously than most other things. Fortunately this Pope isn’t much on Encyclicals. One should at least show some respect to all of his official statements.
Dissent per se is not something that I see as supportable. What I do see as supportable is noting prior magisterial teaching and supportint it—to the extent that it seems irreconcilable with something newer, this does raise questions and pose problems—some might see it as dissenting. In reality it is assenting to something which one perceives as clear, and trusting that whomever is producing what seems unclear will eventually reconcile the two points.
I glanced at your thread—the first 50 and last 50 posts—there doesn’t seem to be much Catholic participation,
I'd rather take Christ's instructions and shake the dust off my feet.
And WHEN are you going to admit that Luther didn't throw out ANY books of what Catholics call the "Bible"? The proof has been given enough times that there's really no excuse for ignorance.
That leaves too much wiggleroom.
Dissent per se is not something that I see as supportable. What I do see as supportable is noting prior magisterial teaching and supportint it—to the extent that it seems irreconcilable with something newer, this does raise questions and pose problems—some might see it as dissenting. In reality it is assenting to something which one perceives as clear, and trusting that whomever is producing what seems unclear will eventually reconcile the two points.
Sounds like dissent to me, an d contrary to the simple "trust and summit as docile sheep" whatever the pope says that is conveyed in some past papal teachings.
I glanced at your thread—the first 50 and last 50 posts—there doesn’t seem to be much Catholic participation,
It was mainly with one. See around here
LOL
Somebody has to do it; for they be singin' off key WAY too much!
Where to begin???!
Live Source of the priest’s views, please.
Even MORE modern changes?
What would the ECFs do?
"One indeed is the universal Church of the faithful, outside which no one at all is saved, in which the priest himself is the sacrifice, Jesus Christ, whose body and blood are truly contained in the sacrament of the altar under the species of bread and wine; the bread (changed) into His body by the divine power of transubstantiation, and the wine into the blood, so that to accomplish the mystery of unity we ourselves receive from His (nature) what He Himself received from ours."
--Pope Innocent III and Lateran Council IV (A.D. 1215)
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