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To: HarleyD
This IS the scriptures used by the Protestants who came along 1000 years after the fact.

The original King James Bible 1611 contained the deutercanonical books. They have since been removed.

As for Joseph Smith,

Smith grew to maturity during the Second Great Awakening, a period of religious excitement in the United States. New York west of the Catskill and Adirondack Mountains became known as the "Burned-over district" because it was "repeatedly singed by the fires of revival that swept through the region in the early years of the nineteenth century."[21] Major multi-denominational religious revivals occurred in the Palmyra area in both 1816-17 (when the Smiths were in the process of migrating from Vermont) and in 1824-25.[22] Small denominational revivals and camp meetings occurred during the intervals.[23][24][25]

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Smith said he had become concerned about religion "at about the age of twelve years," although later he seems to have wondered whether "a Supreme being did exist."[38] Smith apparently attended the Presbyterian Sunday school as a child,[39] and later as an adolescent, he displayed interest in Methodism.[40] One of Smith's acquaintances said that Smith had caught "a spark of Methodism" at camp meetings "away down in the woods, on the Vienna road."[41] He even reportedly spoke during some of these meetings, and the acquaintance described Smith as a "very passable exhorter."[42]

111 posted on 02/04/2017 6:55:24 AM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: af_vet_1981
They have since been removed.

By that DAMNED Luther fella??

I hear that a LOT on FR!!!

113 posted on 02/05/2017 4:02:30 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: af_vet_1981
...the acquaintance described Smith as a "very passable exhorter."[42]

Considering what he left behind; I'd have to agree!

114 posted on 02/05/2017 4:03:48 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: af_vet_1981; HarleyD; Elsie
I agree the early "holy catholic apostolic church" accepted the Old Testament from our Jewish forefathers and agreed on what constituted the New Testament. This IS the scriptures used by the Protestants who came along 1000 years after the fact.

The original King James Bible 1611 contained the deutercanonical books. They have since been removed.

I think you should know better than that. Consistent with Luther's translation and an ancient practice, they were in separate section, and as shown in your link, the original King James Bible 1611 clearly labelled the as apocrypha. Thus Hardly was correct in that only the 66 books were used by the Protestants as Scripture.

As for the inclusion of the disputed "second canon" (deuterocanonicals) by Rome, most did historically hold them as Scripture, but as substantiated by the grace of God, did not have to, and scholars disagreed on their inclusion as Scripture proper early on and right in the council of Trent itself, which issued the first "infallible" definition of the entire RC canon on April 8th, 1546, after the death of Luther (February 8,1546).

Who, as with others, could express his own opinions doubting these books, which he did, expressly as non-binding, nor did Protestantism completely concur with it The EO canon also does not conform to that of Rome due to slightly more books being added,

As for Joseph Smith,

Like popes, he arrogated to himself the premise of ensured veracity and the supreme authority, and made his own visionary "traditions" equal to and supreme over the word of God.

Calling him "Protestant" which he denounced en toto, and was fundamentally contrary to, simply because he is outside Rome and tags himself "Christian," is no more valid than calling Santeria "Catholic."

nineteenth century."[21] Major multi-denominational religious revivals occurred in the Palmyra area in both 1816-17

"They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us." (1 John 2:19)

"Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them." (Acts 20:30)

116 posted on 02/05/2017 3:29:55 PM PST by daniel1212 ( Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned and destitute sinner+ trust Him to save you, then follow Him!)
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