Posted on 01/02/2017 4:25:11 AM PST by BlessedBeGod
...If the Church were to change its rules on shared Eucharistic Communion it would go against Revelation and the Magisterium, leading Christians to commit blasphemy and sacrilege, an Italian theologian has warned.
Drawing on the Churchs teaching based on Sacred Scripture and Tradition, Msgr. Nicola Bux, a former consulter to the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, stressed that non-Catholic Christians must have undertaken baptism and confirmation in the Catholic Church, and repented of grave sin through sacramental confession, in order to be able to receive Jesus in the Eucharist.
Msgr. Bux was responding to the Register about concerns that elements of the current pontificate might be sympathetic of a form of open Communion proposed by the German Protestant theologian, Jürgen Moltmann.
The concerns have arisen primarily due to the Holy Fathers own comments on Holy Communion and Lutherans, his apparent support for some remarried divorcees to receive Holy Communion, and how others have used his frequently repeated maxim about the Eucharist: that it is not a prize for the perfect, but a powerful medicine and nourishment for the weak.
The debate specifically over intercommunion with Christian denominations follows recent remarks by Cardinal Walter Kasper who, in a Dec. 10 interview with Avvenire, said he hopes Pope Francis next declaration will open the way for intercommunion with other denominations in special cases.
The German theologian said shared Eucharistic communion is just a matter of time, and that the Popes recent participation in the Reformation commemoration in Lund has given a new thrust to the ecumenical process.
Pope Francis has often expressed his admiration for Cardinal Kaspers theology whose thinking has significantly influenced the priorities of this pontificate, particularly on the Eucharist.
For Moltmann, Holy Communion is the Lord's supper, not something organized by a church or a denomination...
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Be free of your Mary bondage, that your faith may grow in Jesus.
Youve probably read the account written by R&B defending his being so judgemental; right??
Got a list that long of Jesus’ titles?
I’m getting tired of Looking over there for squirrels.
OH?
I thought only True Scotsmen did this...
Yup; Catholicism REACTING to the Protestant REFORMATION.
OH?
fixed
Halfway there...
“And now you guys claim that we have to drink blood to get saved.”
We are simply reading John 6:54, among others, as is.
But again, you don’t even think it’s blood, so I guess we’re ok.
Ok, SINCE He can be present with us, in just one case where 2 or 3 are gathered, why not in bread and wine also? Is He present in the air (yes), in our hearts (yes)...(and we are not meaning pantheistically). Why not bread?
And, again, is it sacreligious or heretical to believe that, and eat?
Hell; why not unicorns?
You just cannot make stuff up that MIGHT happen and expect us to accept it!
No; just Catholic.
“Sorry; but I’m not allowed to mind-read on FR”
Apologies. I hope I answered “what I meant”: The HEBREW law “changed” in that we have a New Covenant from Christ. (We have different (and, look, neither 100% wrong) perspectives on many things, and I was in too much a hurry so early.)
Yes, rhetorical. We believe the Host is God’s presence, left for us as a blessing.
So, Rhetorical: if that was revealed to you also, then, withJohn 6 in mind, what would you do?
Ok I’ll now sign off this thread. Please have the last words. We’re at a standoff.
We all need to be reminded we’re on the same team against a force that thrives on Christian divisions.
Awful lot of ‘teaching’ here...
http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p2s2c1a3.htm
Where does the church exist without people?
What mechanism establishes doctrine to follow if men don’t do it?
Is there some kind of entity somewhere that is outside the human component that you adhere to?
Which church?
And how has He protected it if He has allowed the current crop of leaders?
How is that protecting anything?
Matthew 26:29 I tell you I will not drink again of this fruit of the vine until that day when I drink it new with you in my Fathers kingdom.
Mark 14:25 Truly, I say to you, I will not drink again of the fruit of the vine until that day when I drink it new in the kingdom of God.
Luke 22:18 For I tell you that from now on I will not drink of the fruit of the vine until the kingdom of God comes.
John 6:63 It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh is no help at all. The words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life.
Because bread and wine cannot be saved.
If He had wanted to save bread and wine from its sin, He would have become bread and wine.
Jesus lives in our hearts through faith.
We DON'T need to eat Him to have Him living in us.
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