Posted on 01/02/2017 4:25:11 AM PST by BlessedBeGod
...If the Church were to change its rules on shared Eucharistic Communion it would “go against Revelation and the Magisterium”, leading Christians to “commit blasphemy and sacrilege,” an Italian theologian has warned.
Drawing on the Church’s teaching based on Sacred Scripture and Tradition, Msgr. Nicola Bux, a former consulter to the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, stressed that non-Catholic Christians must have undertaken baptism and confirmation in the Catholic Church, and repented of grave sin through sacramental confession, in order to be able to receive Jesus in the Eucharist.
Msgr. Bux was responding to the Register about concerns that elements of the current pontificate might be sympathetic of a form of “open Communion” proposed by the German Protestant theologian, Jürgen Moltmann.
The concerns have arisen primarily due to the Holy Father’s own comments on Holy Communion and Lutherans, his apparent support for some remarried divorcees to receive Holy Communion, and how others have used his frequently repeated maxim about the Eucharist: that it is “not a prize for the perfect, but a powerful medicine and nourishment for the weak.”
The debate specifically over intercommunion with Christian denominations follows recent remarks by Cardinal Walter Kasper who, in a Dec. 10 interview with Avvenire, said he hopes Pope Francis’ next declaration will open the way for intercommunion with other denominations “in special cases.”
The German theologian said shared Eucharistic communion is just a matter of time, and that the Pope’s recent participation in the Reformation commemoration in Lund has given “a new thrust” to the “ecumenical process.”
Pope Francis has often expressed his admiration for Cardinal Kasper’s theology whose thinking has significantly influenced…the priorities of this pontificate, particularly on the Eucharist.
For Moltmann, Holy Communion is “the Lord's supper, not something organized by a church or a denomination”...
(Excerpt) Read more at ncregister.com ...
So funny..... Jesus wasn’t Catholic, hahahah...
So funny..... Jesus wasn’t Catholic, hahahah...
It sure would concidering the Roman Catholic Church is not even Christian.
Rev 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
“Shared Communion With Protestants Would be Blasphemy and Sacrilege”
And Protestants sharing Communion with Catholics would be blasphemy and sacrilege.
Protestants have different beliefs on the Eucharist than Catholics and Orthodox Christians. Inter-communion would not be appropriate without resolution of these differences.
Catechism of the Catholic Church:
http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p2s2c1a3.htm
“1400 Ecclesial communities derived from the Reformation and separated from the Catholic Church, “have not preserved the proper reality of the Eucharistic mystery in its fullness, especially because of the absence of the sacrament of Holy Orders.”239 It is for this reason that, for the Catholic Church, Eucharistic intercommunion with these communities is not possible. However these ecclesial communities, “when they commemorate the Lord’s death and resurrection in the Holy Supper . . . profess that it signifies life in communion with Christ and await his coming in glory.”240”
Vatican II DECREE ON ECUMENISM: UNITATIS REDINTEGRATIO
http://www.vatican.va/archive/hist_councils/ii_vatican_council/documents/vat-ii_decree_19641121_unitatis-redintegratio_en.html
“Though the ecclesial Communities which are separated from us lack the fullness of unity with us flowing from Baptism, and though we believe they have not retained the proper reality of the eucharistic mystery in its fullness, especially because of the absence of the sacrament of Orders, nevertheless when they commemorate His death and resurrection in the Lord’s Supper, they profess that it signifies life in communion with Christ and look forward to His coming in glory. Therefore the teaching concerning the Lord’s Supper, the other sacraments, worship, the ministry of the Church, must be the subject of the dialogue.”
Is there really some kind of demand out there for non-Catholics to receive Roman Catholic communion—or Catholics to receive the Protestant sacrament?
I just don’t see it, it sounds like they are just stirring the pot.
If you don't believe in the former, why bother even showing up? I watch Protestants eat their symbolic wafers once a year from my pipe ensconced skybox and think "Well there's some empty carbs for you."
From an Orthodox perspective this would be a deeply troubling development. We have always taken a fairly strict view on the prohibition against communio in sacris with the heterodox. Following the example of the Fathers and the canons of the Church the sharing of the cup is more than just a feel good moment. It is even more than the reception of His Body and Blood. It is also a declaration that there are no serious differences in faith between the two churches. Or to boil it down into a somewhat simplistic way of thinking, “you are who you are in communion with.”
If Rome were to do this it would force me and I suspect many other Orthodox, possibly even on an official level, to seriously reconsider some long held opinions on Roman Catholic Church.
The anti-Catholic snarky replies aren’t necessary.
The article does not insult you. We have starkly different beliefs on the meaning of the Last Supper and the last half of John 6. Those different beliefs translate into our worship, which if you don’t share, it’s pointless for you to participate in.
far be it from me to go against the magisterium. Okay, what’s a magisterium?
Quote: "... repented of grave sin through sacramental confession, in order to be able to receive Jesus in the Eucharist.
Amen to that. As a former Catholic who is now born again, I can attest.
In the same way, after supper he took the cup, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood; do this, whenever you drink it, in remembrance of me.”
...but only if you’re part of the Catholic Church... which doesn’t really exist yet. In fact, since we’re all Jews, we haven’t even made up our minds about Gentiles yet, but once we have, and they’re “Catholic”, then only if they’re “Catholic”.
I sure am glad I have a personal relationship with my Savior, and don’t have to worry about all this man-created drama.
I am not Catholic, but I take this very seriously. I have been to many Catholic services, and I never take communion there. It is not appropriate to accept communion (or any other sacrament) unless you believe in and accept the underlying meaning and conditions.
“leading Christians to “commit blasphemy and sacrilege”
There is a long history of blasphemy and sacrilege within the Catholic Church, which is why Protestants exist.
That said, Catholics can be in or out of Communion with whomever they wish. It seems to me to gloss over differences in religions by sharing Communion is counterproductive to your chosen religion.
“We have starkly different beliefs on the meaning of the Last Supper and the last half of John 6.”
Exactly my point. Not snarky. Agreeing with you.
Jesus IS Catholic.
So THERE! And this is very SERIOUS because if you are not Catholic something is very wrong in your relationship with God.
Also note that even people who call themselves Catholic these days really aren’t.
That is because 50 years ago a council was held where apostates left the Catholic faith as they created new dogmas that are at odds with the faith of Jesus Christ, including welcoming non-Catholics to enjoy the sacraments without them renouncing the errors and heresies in Protestantism.
“Catholic” means “universal”. That includes being under one pope and ascribing to one dogma.
Those 50 years ago they broke with a number of the unchanging dogmas (as taught UNIVERSALLY by all popes and by the Church in the past) and falsely declared a need to modernize, which incidentally included the presence of six invited heretics to advise during the sadly, false “Vatican II” council.
It is thus and then that the Whore of Babylon, I suppose, was born, and those in Vatican II “Catholic” sect and protestants who so willingly support the rebellion against Jesus Christ and His Bride the Church need to come out of her (the whore).
The abomination of desolation is the loss of belief in the true Presence which is evident in today’s “Catholics”.
This is very mysterious and these events portend a very dangerous time upon humanity leading to the return of our Saviour Jesus Christ, so it behoves us to walk very carefully and full of the fear of the Lord in these latter days.
(Satan is filled with delight in these days as he creates confusion and horror in the world at a level never before attained, but his days are numbered.)
So THERE! And this is very SERIOUS because if you are not Catholic something is very wrong in your relationship with God. I respectfully disagree.
Jesus is the Son of God, and is my only path to God the Father, and my Savior. Any one who accepts that gift and believes in him shall not perish, but have eternal life.
Anything that I put in the way of that, any "dogma" or stipulations or rhetoric, be it Catholic, Protestant, Pentacostal, or any other "denomination"-- anything that stands in the way of that personal relationship with God the Father and God the Son is problematic, and therefore can't come from Him.
However, God bless you! If your relationship with Him is real, then you and I may meet in Heaven and, if we were so inclined as to discuss this, I would welcome it then, with our new-found perspective.
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