Posted on 12/22/2016 8:06:09 AM PST by Salvation
Here’s one for you:
God knew adam and eve would eat the fruit before he made them.
i.e. it was like puting a fox in a hen house and telling it to do whatever it wanted but don’t mess with the chickens.
And all that that implies.
Monsignor Pope Ping!
There is another answer: God’s actions are not bound by space and time, even if their manifestations to us are. Jesus is the Lamb who was slain from the foundation of the world (Rev. 13:8), as well as the child who would grow up to die on the cross during the early decades of the Roman Empire, for He is fully God and fully man.
My belief is that we were created to show the consequences of sin, if it were allowed to reign freely.
God knew adam and eve would eat the fruit before he made them.
Absolutely.
God created man in his own image. This includes free will.
God knew from the beginning that man would sin but he also knew he had a plan of salvation through his son, our Lord Jesus Christ.
To answer the question put forth. He never would have left. He did walk with Adam in the Garden of Eden and who is to say Adam would still be with us today as well as Jesus and the Garden of Eden.
Thanks for posting.
I’ve often thought that one reason Christ’s Incarnation was long in coming was in order to allow the understanding that there is only one God (not exactly a common belief in the times B.C.) to become so deeply believed within the Jewish faith that the revelation of the Trinity wouldn’t be misunderstood as a revelation that there are three gods.
Here’s the part I find fascinating: If they had not sinned, man would have no knowledge of good and evil. I wonder if that would have left us like the squid creatures in Galaxy Quest. Or, more down to earth, if it would have made us more like the animals.
i.e. in the end, will our condition, after our resurrection, be BETTER than it would have been had they not sinned?
I’m just asking for discussion’s sake. I’m not trying to start a new theology. :)
i.e. in the end, will our condition, after our resurrection, be BETTER than it would have been had they not sinned?
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I believe so. It will give us a better appreciation and understanding of how good God really is.
Spare the rod, spoil the child.
It’s almost like the fact that you actually damage muscle to build it.
The Bible says Jesus was the “lamb slain from (before) the foundation of the world”.....i.e., his incarnation, death, burial and resurrection were all in God’s plan from eternity past.
In fact, the cross itself is in the center of the heart of God - it reveals who Jesus is more than any other thing. Jesus had his eyes on the cross BEFORE he took on human flesh.
The cross was NOT “Plan B” in case man sinned and fell. God knew man’s sin was inevitable - and He poured out His grace anyway......
It’s almost like the fact that you actually damage muscle to build it.
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- Satan and 1/3 of the angels didn’t really understand how good God is.
- Adam & Eve lacked understanding of how good God is.
- All of us lack full understanding of how good God really is. God’s goodness is incomprehensible to our minds.
Thankfully, we have a loving and forgiving God that sent his son Jesus to save the world.
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I have to say that I think the best example of exercising faith I’ve seen was in an Indiana Jones movie. They were looking for the “cup” and at a ledge above a deep ravine.
The instructions said to take a step of faith. Indiana did, and it turned out there was a bridge there they could not see. But what if he had been misinterpreting the instructions? He’d have fallen to his death.
That’s the problem, in real life. We always want to second guess whether or not we are reading the instructions correctly. So we always find excuses to NOT take those steps of faith.
But then, I think I’ve strayed from the topic at hand - his Lordship.
But, this faith walk you speak of adds to the Lordship of Christ, instead of questioning it.
Thanks, Salvation!
Thank you. Advent blessings to you.
I agree. I’ll give you an example of what I’m talking about:
Often in church someone will say that “the Lord has put it on my heart to say...”. But what they mean is that they are a sanguine personality like me and everything they think they just want to share with everyone else. It is a subtle form of narcissism. Yet they say “the Lord put it on my heart.”
And yet sometimes he really DOES. It can be hard to tell the difference sometimes when you are that kind of person.
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