Posted on 11/18/2016 8:39:10 AM PST by ebb tide
Card. Ruini noted that some 85% percent of cardinals who spoke up after Kasper were against Kaspers proposals. He opined of those who said nothing that perhaps they were simply embarrassed.
In the light of Pope Francis's other unprecedented decison not to respond to the cardinals' concerns about Amoris Laetitia, expressed to him in the traditional form of a dubia, it is being speculated that the Holy Father has cancelled his meeting with the college of cardinals in order to avoid discussing the dubia and his decision about it.
Goes to show you....even the College of Cardinals can scr** up.
Has there EVER been tension of this magnitude, at this high a level of the Church, in any living memory?
This pope loves the devils work.
Can’t say enough of communist memes.
The Vatican wreaks of rotting fish.
Flies buzz at his feet.
Jesus did not nor would never offer lucifer bread
, but this pope stokes levin ovens to feed the king of the dead
"Who'd I get rejected by now?"
He was involved with re restructuring the Vacatian Bank, which is ‘sacred’ to a lot of Cardinals, including Cardinal Dolan...(I don't trust him either)...
I believe this was ‘planned’ by some Cardinals that knew they were going to get caught with their hands in the cookie jar and got this to happen...
This Francis the talking poop, is not a True Pope...and those of us that know our religion and have lived it all our lives know this...
Meeting with the Cardinals has been rescheduled
for June 13 as part of a day/night doubleheader.
Very interesting observation.
The cold war gave rise to its own type of great leaders. Reagan was one; Thatcher was one, and so was John Paul II.
Perhaps Gorbachev was one also.
Now we're in a new kind of war, more diffuse in terms of states, but more intimate, involving every human being and their deepest thoughts about the Creator, their concept of Him and their relationship with Him.
This new war will give rise to great generals and presidents too, but that process may take even more time to shake out than the last one did.
I don't know if Trump will be that President, but I'm pretty sure that Obama will be an asterisk.
Doctrinally I can't think of any similar situation in the last 200 years, although what Paul VI did liturgically to the Mass in 1970 comes close.
You have to go back to the 1300s to find a Pope saying something heretical and being upbraided by the Cardinals for it. And Pope Honorius was posthumously anathematized as a heretic by the 6th Ecumenical Council in the 600s.
This is indeed pretty historic territory we are entering into. And we have Benedict still alive in the wings. I wonder what part he will play in this.
They need time to schedule the meeting agenda carefully so as not to allow these issues to reach the floor. The modernists are unbelievably organized when it comes to this stuff.
Took his mitre and went home, eh?
If he fails to respond to the dubia, the Cardinals have a plan for that, too.
If anything, Cardinal Burke is the most knowledgeable person on earth when it comes to Canon Law. The Pope will not find a safe way out of the box he has out himself in.
In the last thousand years, only one other Pope retired. And Dante pictured him lying on the floor of Hell for doing it.
I simply can’t imagine how a great pope like Pope Benedict was forced into retiring. He would not have minded damage to himself. I can only imagine that the Cardinals threatened damage to the Church if he stayed on.
As it is, I think the damage has been far worse than if he had stayed on and met their challenge. A very sad business. At this point, it will take divine intervention to straighten it out.
LOL!...............I thought they were Methodists?...............
P4L
I agree with you, and I think your starting to see the ‘divine intervention’ starting by Francis the talking poop not talking right now...it will fall, we pray every day and night and believe in the Lord...this is the way it will happen...
I'm not sure that this is the correct interpretation.
A man of Francis' hubris doesn't take kindly to being interrogated, which is essentially what the dubia amount to. I see this as a gesture of extreme displeasure on the part of El Lider Maximo; a papal "we are not amused" moment.
He's letting his ...er.....entourage know, that heads will roll. Not the heads of the "Four Cardinals", of course. There's not much he can do to them. No, this is a shot across the bows of the other cardinals who may be sympathetic towards the revolt, or those currently straddling the fence and thinking of joining it.
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