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Trump, a shocked Vatican, and ‘papal’ climate change
American Thinker ^ | November 16, 2016 | Matt C. Abbott

Posted on 11/16/2016 1:36:06 PM PST by NYer

It appears that many Vatican officials are unhappy with Donald Trump’s presidential victory.

… Corriere della Sera reported Nov. 10 that, according to its research, most in the Vatican were backing Hillary Clinton as the ‘lesser evil.’ Trump, on the other hand, was considered ‘unelectable’ due to his ‘aggressive chauvinism,’ in addition to his threats to deport 11 million illegal Mexican immigrants and ban Muslims from immigrating to the United States.

Now that the ‘greater evil’ has won, the Vatican is viewing the United States as ‘angry and radicalized,’ Corriere della Sera wrote….

A ‘lot of incomprehension’ and ‘bitter shock’ were generally prevalent for many in the Vatican, agreed one U.S. official who spoke with the Register. Based on ‘failings of reporting,’ he said, Clinton was represented as far preferable to Trump, who was portrayed as a ‘buffoon,’ and reporting about Clinton’s shortcomings ‘never sunk in.’

Due to a general lack of understanding of the U.S. ‘culture wars’ in Italy, Clinton’s radical pro-abortion-rights position also hardly figured at all in media commentary.

I can’t help but wonder if the Vatican is becoming the enemy of authentic Catholicism.  It sure seems that way.  As for Pope Francis, I was certainly willing to give him the benefit of the doubt in the early months of his pontificate, as were most other orthodox Catholics.  Sadly, his pontificate has turned out to be a huge disappointment.

He loves to give off-the-cuff remarks to members of the media about important moral matters that deserve far more serious and thoughtful treatment; he thrives on ambiguity in his speech and writing; he prides himself on being humble and merciful – “Who am I to judge? yet his words and actions toward orthodox clergy and laity have been insulting and arrogant.

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TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Moral Issues; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: catholicvote; popefrancis; trumptransition; vatican
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1 posted on 11/16/2016 1:36:06 PM PST by NYer
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To: Tax-chick; GregB; SumProVita; narses; bboop; SevenofNine; Ronaldus Magnus; tiki; Salvation; ...
Dare I say that President-Elect Trump just might be a bit more humble than the Jesuit from Argentina?

Catholic ping!

2 posted on 11/16/2016 1:36:35 PM PST by NYer (Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy them. Mt 6:19)
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To: NYer
most in the Vatican were backing Hillary Clinton as the ‘lesser evil.’

Aren't Catholics into degrees of sin? How is abortion not as bad as deporting illegals?

3 posted on 11/16/2016 1:37:37 PM PST by Gamecock (Gun owner. Christian. Pro-American. Pro Law and Order. I am in the basket of deplorables.)
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To: NYer

Trump, on the other hand, was considered ‘unelectable’

Trump 1
Vatican 0


4 posted on 11/16/2016 1:41:01 PM PST by 48th SPS Crusader (I am an American. Not a Republican or a Democrat)
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To: NYer
threats to deport 11 million illegal Mexican immigrants

I hope the 'threats to deport' is for all illegal aliens and not just a large subset.
5 posted on 11/16/2016 1:41:16 PM PST by posterchild
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To: Gamecock

This is one Catholic that went all in for Trump
This Pope was elected to lead the flock in the wrong direction.


6 posted on 11/16/2016 1:41:42 PM PST by bantam
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To: NYer

Well, that’s OK, I view the Vatican as communist and anti-Catholic.


7 posted on 11/16/2016 1:41:46 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam , Know Peace)
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To: NYer
most in the Vatican were backing Hillary Clinton

I don't understand how the Vatican can be backing a woman who believes in abortion, even partial birth abortion.

Somebody explain to me how that happens?

8 posted on 11/16/2016 1:42:09 PM PST by Dawn53Fl
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To: NYer

The gay mafia still rules the Vatican.


9 posted on 11/16/2016 1:43:07 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: NYer

They don’t know what’s going on here. They read Italian papers which just parrot CNN CBS wapost nytimes.


10 posted on 11/16/2016 1:43:36 PM PST by I want the USA back (The media is acting full-on as the Democratic Party's press agency now: Robert Spencer)
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To: NYer

The Vatican is a political organization that operates not unlike Washington, D.C. Prone to the same turf battles and bias and corruption.

Except that it has been doing so for about 1500 years longer.

And there does not appear to be anybody to drain the swamp.


11 posted on 11/16/2016 1:44:23 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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If donations from conservative American Catholics to the Vatican begin to decline, a papal visit to the US with many smiling photo ops at the White House will occur in early 2018.


12 posted on 11/16/2016 1:44:42 PM PST by allendale
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https://www.amazon.com/Windswept-House-Vatican-Malachi-Martin/dp/0385492316/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1479329207&sr=8-1-fkmr1&keywords=dr.+malachi+martin+windswept+house


13 posted on 11/16/2016 1:44:50 PM PST by Walkingfeather
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"in addition to his threats to deport 11 million illegal Mexican immigrants"

What about the other 50 million+ ?

14 posted on 11/16/2016 1:46:20 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Je Suis Pepe)
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To: Dawn53Fl

A communist, liberation-theology Pope, that’s how. Plus, he’s a moron.


15 posted on 11/16/2016 1:46:33 PM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: NYer

The Pope should stick to his knitting or tend his flock or something. Hmmmm... doubt the flock wants him messing about in their wool either.


16 posted on 11/16/2016 1:48:24 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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I am no longer a practicing Catholic, but I have gotten to the point where if the Vatican thinks something is bad, I am reflexively thinking it is probably good.

There is something wrong with this Pope. It seems more than just his nanny-state Marxist views.


17 posted on 11/16/2016 1:49:32 PM PST by rlmorel (Orwell described Liberals when he wrote of those who "repudiate morality while laying claim to it.")
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To: allendale

Sadly I believe that you are correct.

All of this is being driven by what they feel is most likely to start refilling the collection baskets.


18 posted on 11/16/2016 1:49:54 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Yeah. Funny how that 11 million number from about 20 years ago seems to stick like glue.

It was probably wildly low back then, too.


19 posted on 11/16/2016 1:51:08 PM PST by rlmorel (Orwell described Liberals when he wrote of those who "repudiate morality while laying claim to it.")
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To: bantam

Couple more Catholics here who voted for Trump and pretty much ignore this Pope.


20 posted on 11/16/2016 1:51:28 PM PST by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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