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Cardinal Raymond Burke: Muslims and Christians Don’t Worship 'the Same God'
Breitbart ^
| 9/8/16
| Thomas Williams
Posted on 09/08/2016 7:17:51 PM PDT by marshmallow
According to the former head of the Vaticans highest court, Cardinal Raymond Burke Muslims and Christians do not worship the same God, since Allah is a governor, whereas Christianity was founded on love.
The modern belief that Islam and Christianity are fundamentally the same is very much influenced by a relativism of a religious order, the Cardinal said at a recent press conference.
I hear people saying to me, well, were all worshipping the same God. We all believe in love. But I say stop a minute, and lets examine carefully what Islam is, and what our Christian faith teaches us.
I dont believe its true that were all worshipping the same God, because the God of Islam is a governor, Burke said. Sharia is their law, and that law, which comes from Allah, must dominate every man eventually.
The Cardinal said that unlike Christianity, sharia is not a law thats founded on love. To say that we all believe in love is simply not correct.
Not only do Christianity and Islam differ in the nature of their laws, Burke proposed, but also in their approach to proselytism and winning over converts.
In the end, he said, we have to understand that what they believe most deeply, that to which they ascribe in their hearts, demands that they govern the world.
The Cardinals words echoed recent remarks by a senior Catholic prelate in Hungary, who warned that the enormous waves of migrants rolling into Europe are due in no small part to a Muslim will to conquer.
Jihad is a principle for Muslims that means they must expand, said Archbishop Gyula Marfi in an August interview. The earth must become dar al-Islam, that is, Islamic territory, by introducing ShariaIslamic law.
Both prelates words, in fact, find confirmation in recent assertions...........
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To: marshmallow
DUH. If you read the Bible and the Quran and lay out the teachings of each you will find that the one teaches love; the other hate. It’s very obvious when you lay it all down.
To: marshmallow
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posted on
09/08/2016 7:21:40 PM PDT
by
DIRTYSECRET
(urope. Why do they put up with this.)
To: jsanders2001
Yep, exactly.
Islam has more in common with the Old Testament than the new, which it has literally NOTHING in common with. Which is REALLY odd since the Muslims even admit that Jesus was a prophet... but oddly ignore all his teachings!
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posted on
09/08/2016 7:23:13 PM PDT
by
TexasFreeper2009
(You can't spell Hillary without using the letters L, I, A, R)
To: marshmallow
No chance for Popehood now.
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posted on
09/08/2016 7:23:50 PM PDT
by
CriticalJ
(Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.. But then I repeat myself. MT)
To: marshmallow
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Click Thr Pic & The Text For Links Pre-Islamic Arabia's religion was one of superstition. Belief in jinns (genies), curse casting, magic stones, totems was the norm - and it was against this background that Allah arose. Although the Quran is claimed to be a heavenly writing with no earthly source, evidence of these very sorts of cultural influence is found in such places as Suras 55, 72, 113 and 114.
Animism, the belief that spirits inhabit rocks, trees and other elements was also very commonplace. Some of these stones were venerated and used as a focal point for the worship of a particular tribal god. No surprise, Muhammad's family had just such a stone for their own tribe - a black stone, in fact, that they kept at the Kabah (where the tribal idols were set up). The pagan rites of bowing toward Mecca, making a pilgrimage to the Kabah, running around it seven times, kissing it, then running to the river to throw stones at the devil all found there way into Islamic practice.
The final piece of the puzzle was in found in the religion of the Sabeans, an astral religion that worshipped the moon god and planned their religious rites around the lunar calendar. One such rite was fasting from crescent moon to crescent moon, a practice which would also be adopted by Muhammad.
If these things were not present before Muhammad received them from Allah (who himself is the moon god of Muhammad's tribe), why did Muhammad not have to explain what those words meant in the Quran? How would people have known who Allah was? ( or: what a jinn was? what the Kabah was? what the word Islam meant? etc.). Even the word "Islam" which many believe to mean "submission" was not an original word. In Arabic it was a secular term that denoted the strength and bravery of a desert warrior (a definition that accurately reflects the war-like tribes that founded Islam with bloodshed).
The Moon God "Allah" is from the compound Arabic word "al-ilah" or in english "the god". Allah was known before Muhammad's time without a doubt. His name has been found in pre-islamic writings and other archeological finds. At the Kabah in Mecca over 350 gods were worshipped, but it was built especially for the chief deity - the moon god. Allah was the personal title of the moon god. Allah was married to the sun goddess. They produced three daughters, whose worship Muhammad would later make the mistake of condoning. The crescent moon symbol of Arabia came from this god.
Muhammad's family revered this particular god, and it is this idol that Muhammad declared to be the only true god. So, Allah - far from being the revealed God of the Bible as Muhammad would have us believe - is nothing more than an amplified pagan idol. Muhammad did not re-make the pagan god, he simply removed the lower deities from the rites of worship. That is why he never had to explain who Allah was.
By definition, an idol converted in the 7th century into a new god cannot be the same God revealed thousands of years earlier to Biblical prophets! (Click For Link)
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posted on
09/08/2016 7:23:56 PM PDT
by
Fiddlstix
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To: marshmallow
DUH!
AllahSatan is not the One True God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jabob.
Just the opposite, in fact....
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posted on
09/08/2016 7:25:55 PM PDT
by
faithhopecharity
("Politicians are not born. They're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero.)
To: TexasFreeper2009
< Muslims even admit that Jesus was a prophet... but oddly ignore all his teachings!
Funny I've never heard about Mohammed walking on water, raising the dead, restoring eyesight, hearing, and healing paralysis, being resurrected, etc... Sorry Muslims but Jesus was no prophet. He was the son of God.
To: marshmallow
The good Cardinal has it correct.
What’s the odds they’ll put him in charge?
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posted on
09/08/2016 7:34:09 PM PDT
by
xzins
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To: xzins
Approximately the same as the odds of them putting me in charge........ :-)
To: marshmallow
Did you buy your white hat already?
:>)
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09/08/2016 7:36:58 PM PDT
by
xzins
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To: marshmallow
The mohammedans worship the King of Hell. (Says so in their holy book)
Christians worship the King of Heaven. (Says so in their Holy Book)
Not the same.
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posted on
09/08/2016 7:38:43 PM PDT
by
Harmless Teddy Bear
(Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and no, I don't have any heart strings to tug)
To: jsanders2001
Yep.
MoHam never did anything but sin, and lead others to sin.
But it’s still weird that they would admit that Jesus was at the very least a prophet, but they still reject everything he taught.
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posted on
09/08/2016 7:39:49 PM PDT
by
TexasFreeper2009
(You can't spell Hillary without using the letters L, I, A, R)
To: marshmallow
For centuries, Israel worshipped Baal. What is not commonly known is the simple fact that “Baal” means “lord”. Baal was certainly not the Creator God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob (Israel). Similarly, “allah”, is NOT the same deity as the God of the Bible.
Indeed, it would take a book larger than the Bible to fully elaborate on the differences between the two.
To: marshmallow
They’re both in the book of Revelation. It’s just a matter of which side they’re on.
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posted on
09/08/2016 7:54:42 PM PDT
by
Dr.Deth
To: xzins
They will never put him in charge. He was demoted by Pope Francis to being in charge of the Knights of Malta if I remember. Problem for Pope F.? Knights wealthy,all over world and influential to boot. Burke is correct and fearless.
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posted on
09/08/2016 7:57:40 PM PDT
by
amihow
To: marshmallow
I dont believe its true that were all worshipping the same God, because the God of Islam is a governor, Burke said.Very good. It's about time a highly respected cardinal indirectly casts a doubt about the supposedly "dogmatic" and "infallible" VC II; specifically this:
The Church regards with esteem also the Moslems. They adore the one God, living and subsisting in Himself; merciful and all- powerful, the Creator of heaven and earth,(5) who has spoken to men; they take pains to submit wholeheartedly to even His inscrutable decrees, just as Abraham, with whom the faith of Islam takes pleasure in linking itself, submitted to God. Nostra Aetate
and this:
But the plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator. In the first place amongst these there are the Mohamedans, who, professing to hold the faith of Abraham, along with us adore the one and merciful God, who on the last day will judge mankind. Lumen Gentium
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posted on
09/08/2016 8:00:17 PM PDT
by
ebb tide
(We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
To: CriticalJ
“No chance for Popehood now.”
As an American and a Traditionalist his chances of being chosen as pope were few anyway.
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posted on
09/08/2016 8:09:50 PM PDT
by
vladimir998
(Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
To: marshmallow
No we do not.
Islam is the antithesis of Christianity, whether they consider Jesus a ‘prophet’ or not.
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posted on
09/08/2016 8:30:35 PM PDT
by
Mjreagan
To: marshmallow
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posted on
09/08/2016 10:18:55 PM PDT
by
Mrs. Don-o
(Jesus, my Lord, my God, my All.)
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