Posted on 08/27/2016 6:43:43 PM PDT by marshmallow
Justin Welby has opened up about how his own failings make him angry and said that he spends "a lot of time feeling a fraud" in a personal and at times emotional interview at the Greenbelt Christian festival in Northamptonshire.
Speaking to the 'vicar of Gogglebox', television star Kate Bottley in front of hundreds of festival-goers, the Archbishop of Canterbury said that wherever he went he found people who could do his job "infinitely better" than he could.
And in surprisingly frank comments about same-sex relationships, Welby said that he "can't see the road ahead" for the Church.
Before the banter-filled question and answer session, Welby was introduced by Christian Today's Andy Walton who said: "One of [our guests] is the most high profile Christian in the country... and the other is the Archbishop of Canterbury".
The Archbishop joked that "the fact that I'm Archbishop of Canterbury is one of the things that makes me seriously doubt the infallibility of God."
Welby said "there is only one way to overcome" the self-doubts, "and that's prayer and the Bible – it's being part of the family of Christ... with all kinds of problems and issues and you've got a role in that family".
The Archbishop told of a visit last week to the Demelza hospice in Canterbury, of which he is patron and where he was showed around by an eight-year-old blind boy. An emotional Welby described sitting with with the parents of a young boy who had died, and told of how, having asked the parents if they wanted him to pray, he did not know what to say until words came to him. "Jesus, this is all wrong," he prayed. "We shouldn't be here."
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How does she feel about the way muzzies treat them?
My tongue turns to salt and the lining of my stomach is ablaze with the fires of a thousand red-hot burning coals when I think of how President Obama has divided our Nation.
I’m constantly consumed by horror at how the world treats the church.
What a homo.
My Goodness!
How on earth did I miss the Church Trials, The parade of false witnesses? The Witch Hunts? The Stonings, the hangings, and the burnings-at-the-stakes?/s
He is also consumed with horror that Doctors tell people with cancer that they need life saving treatment? Without repentance and forgiveness through Christ’ saving blood gay people will spend an eternity in hell. Love warns them.
Nothing is wrong with two or more men being inseparable, close buddies.
Everything is wrong with them calling buggery “love” or “holy sex.”
It’s possible, and easy, for the sin to be singled out in self righteousness. There is one unforgivable sin and this is not it.
... and so, a church that might be laissez-faire about other sinning might come down like an unmerciful, unsympathetic ton of bricks about this, and both extremes are wrong.
I try to remind followers of Christ that “unity” and candy corns and unicorns are not a gauge of Christlikeness. The Tower of Babel was built by a unified people!
When it comes to the church and same sex partnerships the church need only respond with the truth that “natural” male to male sex produces disease. STOP right there and go no further until the person comes to grips with the reality of that truth! Even the Centers for Disease Control of the Federal government backs up this truth.
Truth sounds like hate to those who hate truth!
Same sex partnerships are an abomination and rebellion against God. Hold the line with these truths.
I believe that a church ought to want to report to Jesus at the end something more than a mere “Well, we weren’t ‘gay’.” (Or, we didn’t rob banks etc.) Something more like “Thank You Jesus You lifted us out of sin that would have been impossible for us to conquer.”
The issue has to be looked at in this context.
How about sins of pride?
Christian missionaries often are sent on paths that incur diseases. That alone does not define sin.
Jesus and churches who truly follow Him would welcome all sinners including homos. But they would not back down from informing homos they are sinning and encourage them towards repentance.
Who?
I do not go out of my way to mistreat homosexuals, even though I disagree with their lifestyle and believe they are condemning themselves for eternity due to the practice. But, your comment above is spot on.
This is in the UK
Quite agreed — Jesus as Savior from sin would be a significant feature of a sincere church, and because of this, the temptation to stratify sin would be resisted. The repentance move is to embrace Jesus for His love with the intention to use this love to get right with Him looking towards eternity.
Buggery (and other sexual sin in the sado-masochistic vein) is an idolatry-of-hostility move. But it can be mighty addictive because we are all born sinners. The only real antidote for this is love of a divine quality. And that love can only be acquired through an embrace of Jesus.
The archbishop is right, ironically. “Jesus, we shouldn’t be here.”
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