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To: Vision Thing

Quite agreed — Jesus as Savior from sin would be a significant feature of a sincere church, and because of this, the temptation to stratify sin would be resisted. The repentance move is to embrace Jesus for His love with the intention to use this love to get right with Him looking towards eternity.

Buggery (and other sexual sin in the sado-masochistic vein) is an idolatry-of-hostility move. But it can be mighty addictive because we are all born sinners. The only real antidote for this is love of a divine quality. And that love can only be acquired through an embrace of Jesus.

The archbishop is right, ironically. “Jesus, we shouldn’t be here.”


20 posted on 08/27/2016 7:17:58 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

There is a pastor in CA who was raised by hetero professors. While growing up, both parents decided they were homosexual and divorced to fulfil their longings. They taught their son to hate Christians.

Eventually, he was introduced to Jesus and eventually became a pastor.

His parents were horrified.

But he was able to show the love of Christ to his parents, and both are now Christians, if I recall correctly, and they abstain from their homosexuality.

He wrote a book. Will post it in a later reply.


26 posted on 08/27/2016 7:39:18 PM PDT by Vision Thing (You know the depths of my heart, and You love me the same...)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Here is that book I mentioned last night:

Caleb Kaltenbach's Messy Grace: How a Pastor with Gay Parents Learned to Love Others Without Sacrificing Conviction

49 posted on 08/28/2016 11:06:50 AM PDT by Vision Thing (You know the depths of my heart, and You love me the same...)
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