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There are a lot of issues upon which orthodox believers of Catholicism, Orthodoxy, Judaism, Protestantism, and even Islam can agree on and work together on. Opposing abortion and homosexuality are two that come to mind immediately.

However, highly orthodox believers of any particular religion tend to be against all forms of ecumenism and believe that those who don't agree with pretty much 100% of their dogma are going to Hell.

So if an orthodox Catholic and an orthodox Orthodox get together to oppose abortion what they are basically saying to one another is: Let's work together on this important issue even though I know you're going to Hell unless you convert to my religion.

I sense this dissonance here in FR where we're all together on defeating Hillary, abortion, the LGBT agenda and all strongly in favor of the 2nd Amendment. Simultaneously the orthodox among us believe that despite our political and moral positions there are Freepers that are bound for Hell because they are Protestants when they ought to be Catholic or vice-versa.

I think this is an issue that needs to brought up and discussed head on. If deep down we believe that most other Freepers are going to Hell because their religion is heretical in our eyes then is joining forces on political or social issues a form of denial?

When the American Republic finally crumbles (and I believe it will) will it divide itself along religious lines? Will there be hundreds of communities similar to the Amish but associated with other faiths such as Catholicism, Judaism, etc.?

I know we're supposed to all quiet down and get along until Hillary is defeated, but that's what they said when we were supposed to support W or McCain or Romney. How long must we go on with this charade?

Capito. Gotcha. I appreciate all your stories.

Vatican II:

I acknowledge that some with to delete 100% of Vatican II. My personal view is that I should delete 30% of Vatican II. I enjoy reading Dei Verbum (1965) and Optatam Totuis (1965). A few of my professors pushed Guadium et Spes (1965) excessively and now I am cautious with the document.

The Sacrosanctum Concilium (1963) has, in my opinion, led to the most damage. Thankfully, Pope Benedict XVI gave the solution in Summorum Pontificum (2007). Too bad many priests reject the last document. Sad that Pope Francis does nothing with the document.

Thanks again.