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To: ebb tide
There are a lot of issues upon which orthodox believers of Catholicism, Orthodoxy, Judaism, Protestantism, and even Islam can agree on and work together on. Opposing abortion and homosexuality are two that come to mind immediately.

However, highly orthodox believers of any particular religion tend to be against all forms of ecumenism and believe that those who don't agree with pretty much 100% of their dogma are going to Hell.

So if an orthodox Catholic and an orthodox Orthodox get together to oppose abortion what they are basically saying to one another is: Let's work together on this important issue even though I know you're going to Hell unless you convert to my religion.

I sense this dissonance here in FR where we're all together on defeating Hillary, abortion, the LGBT agenda and all strongly in favor of the 2nd Amendment. Simultaneously the orthodox among us believe that despite our political and moral positions there are Freepers that are bound for Hell because they are Protestants when they ought to be Catholic or vice-versa.

I think this is an issue that needs to brought up and discussed head on. If deep down we believe that most other Freepers are going to Hell because their religion is heretical in our eyes then is joining forces on political or social issues a form of denial?

When the American Republic finally crumbles (and I believe it will) will it divide itself along religious lines? Will there be hundreds of communities similar to the Amish but associated with other faiths such as Catholicism, Judaism, etc.?

I know we're supposed to all quiet down and get along until Hillary is defeated, but that's what they said when we were supposed to support W or McCain or Romney. How long must we go on with this charade?

7 posted on 08/10/2016 10:31:58 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
Let's see what Pius XI had to say about this in his encyclical Mortalium Animos, 1928:

Is it not right, it is often repeated, indeed, even consonant with duty, that all who invoke the name of Christ should abstain from mutual reproaches and at long last be united in mutual charity? Who would dare to say that he loved Christ, unless he worked with all his might to carry out the desires of Him, Who asked His Father that His disciples might be "one."[1] And did not the same Christ will that His disciples should be marked out and distinguished from others by this characteristic, namely that they loved one another: "By this shall all men know that you are my disciples, if you have love one for another"?[2] All Christians, they add, should be as "one": for then they would be much more powerful in driving out the pest of irreligion, which like a serpent daily creeps further and becomes more widely spread, and prepares to rob the Gospel of its strength. These things and others that class of men who are known as pan-Christians continually repeat and amplify; and these men, so far from being quite few and scattered, have increased to the dimensions of an entire class, and have grouped themselves into widely spread societies, most of which are directed by non-Catholics, although they are imbued with varying doctrines concerning the things of faith. This undertaking is so actively promoted as in many places to win for itself the adhesion of a number of citizens, and it even takes possession of the minds of very many Catholics and allures them with the hope of bringing about such a union as would be agreeable to the desires of Holy Mother Church, who has indeed nothing more at heart than to recall her erring sons and to lead them back to her bosom. But in reality beneath these enticing words and blandishments lies hid a most grave error, by which the foundations of the Catholic faith are completely destroyed.

10 posted on 08/11/2016 6:31:28 AM PDT by piusv (The Spirit of Christ hasn't refrained from using separated churches as means of salvation:VII heresy)
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