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1. You start with faith in Jesus Christ
2. If you have faith in Jesus Christ, you will follow His commandments.
3. His commandments include doing His works.
4. As you do His works your faith grows.
5. Enduring to the end means, the end of your life.
6. Jesus will judge you based on your works, which is indicator of your faith.
7. Works do not save you. Jesus Christ saves you. But in order for Him to grant salvation you have to prove where your faith lies.

James 2:21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?

22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by
works was faith made perfect?

8. Matt 25:32-46 is direct and explicit. How can anyone deny this? Ask yourself this, based on Matt 25, are the righteous separated from the wicked based on what they believed or what they did? Or... didn’t do?

9. I can’t recall any place in scripture where any prophet or the Lord ever says He will judge you for your belief. They all only say you will be judged by your works.

Works = faith = belief.

The problem is, you don’t know what you’re supposed to do. So you kind of throw your hands up. You have no prophets to teach you and God hasn’t spoken directly to any of your churches in 2000 years.

You could seek out the two prophets John saw in vision in Rev 11. They could teach you I guess.

Just remember this warning:

Matt 7
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Jesus said multiple times that in reality, among the believers and religionist, only a few would actually be saved. Probably because the vast majority went around claiming they didn’t have to do anything for their salvation...


27 posted on 05/20/2016 7:35:10 AM PDT by StormPrepper
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To: StormPrepper
"5. Enduring to the end means, the end of your life."

You are in error, having lifted a piece of a passage not directed to this Church Age. You are not rightly dividing the Word of God, you are mangling it to fit a preconceived assertion by the religion of Mormonism.

The clear context of the partial quote is directed to Israel and the ones hidden from the persecution of antichrist and his legions during the last half of the Tribulation.

28 posted on 05/20/2016 8:06:26 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Democrats bait then switch; their fishy voters buy it every time.)
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To: StormPrepper
5. Enduring to the end means, the end of your life.

Not according to the context in Matthew...What is it a person is supposed to endure??? Persecution...And for how long??? Till a certain event takes place...NOT the end of your life...It's right there in the context...

6. Jesus will judge you based on your works, which is indicator of your faith.

That is not at all what the apostle Paul teaches us...He teaches us that 'our works' get judged...Not us...And then the bad works are burned up..Expunged from our record so we can go to heaven with a clean slate...

7. Works do not save you. Jesus Christ saves you. But in order for Him to grant salvation you have to prove where your faith lies.

Jesus doesn't judge our works...He judges our heart...We don't have to prove anything...

Jesus said multiple times that in reality, among the believers and religionist, only a few would actually be saved. Probably because the vast majority went around claiming they didn’t have to do anything for their salvation...

The truth is exactly the opposite...It is the people who think Jesus didn't do enough to save us that are in danger...There is absolutely nothing we can contribute to our salvation...To take even the slightest credit away from Jesus and attribute it to yourself only angers Jesus...

8. Matt 25:32-46 is direct and explicit. How can anyone deny this? Ask yourself this, based on Matt 25, are the righteous separated from the wicked based on what they believed or what they did? Or... didn’t do?

I, a dispensationalist agree with you...Clearly teaches a works salvation...But not for Christians...There's not a Christian in that bunch anywhere...

31 posted on 05/20/2016 10:44:36 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: StormPrepper
8. Matt 25:32-46 is direct and explicit. How can anyone deny this? Ask yourself this, based on Matt 25, are the righteous separated from the wicked based on what they believed or what they did? Or... didn’t do?

They were they believed separated from the wicked based on what thy believed, as evidenced by their works. "Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works." (James 2:18) Everything that we do is a result of what we truly believe - at least at the moment. While works are the criteria for determination of whether what one professes is the truth, it is not the works or our practical sanctification that make us good enough to be with God in Heaven, which is the error of Rome (thus Purgatory).

35 posted on 05/20/2016 1:53:08 PM PDT by daniel1212 ( Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned and destitute sinner+ trust Him to save you, then follow Him!)
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To: StormPrepper

Just remember this warning:


"Now if any of you will deny the plurality of wives, and continue to do so, I promise that you will be damned;

and I will go still further and say, take this revelation, or any other revelation that the Lord has given,

and deny it in your feelings, and I promise that you will be damned.

Brigham Young - JoD 3:266 (July 14, 1855)

36 posted on 05/20/2016 6:01:27 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: StormPrepper

Just remember this warning:


"Now if any of you will deny the plurality of wives, and continue to do so, I promise that you will be damned;

and I will go still further and say, take this revelation, or any other revelation that the Lord has given,

and deny it in your feelings, and I promise that you will be damned.

Brigham Young - JoD 3:266 (July 14, 1855)

37 posted on 05/20/2016 6:05:06 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: StormPrepper
You could seek out the two prophets John saw in vision in Rev 11. They could teach you I guess.


Let's see what SLC has to say about this...

 

Doctrine and Covenants 77:15 reveals more about the two witnesses.

https://www.lds.org/manual/new-testament-student-study-guide/the-revelation-of-saint-john-the-divine/revelation-11-two-special-witnesses?lang=eng

38 posted on 05/20/2016 6:06:06 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: StormPrepper
1. You start with faith in Jesus Christ

Actually you start by hearing the Word of God and acknowledging that its the Truth and confessing that you are a sinner in need of a Savior and asking God to forgive you...(have you ever done that ???)

2. If you have faith in Jesus Christ, you will follow His commandments.

Nope

So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Romans 10:17

we have yet to establish whether you have ever heard the Word of God..

3. His commandments include doing His works.

Nope

The LORD Jesus Christ only gave us TWO Commandments..

One of the teachers of the law came and heard them debating. Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, "Of all the commandments, which is the most important?"

"The most important one," answered Jesus, "is this: 'Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one. Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.'

The second is this: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' There is no commandment greater than these." Mark 12:28-31

4. As you do His works your faith grows.

Nope

As you pray in tongues your faith grows..

Building yourself up in your most Holy faith, praying in the Holy Spirit. Jude 1:20

5. Enduring to the end means, the end of your life.

For Christians life never ends...that's why God calls it life everlasting..

6. Jesus will judge you based on your works, which is indicator of your faith.

Nope

God will judge me on what I did about the LORD Jesus Christ

7. Works do not save you. Jesus Christ saves you.

Then why bother to do the works ??? God is not into "just in case"

But in order for Him to grant salvation you have to prove where your faith lies.

Nope

God never make it that hard to be saved. Christians aren't pretzels.

45 posted on 05/21/2016 4:13:47 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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