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To: Mark17
I am leading them TOWARD Christ.

No, I'm sorry, but you are not...However wonderful that you consider the "navigators", they are hardly Christ's chosen religion

100 posted on 05/10/2016 8:34:34 PM PDT by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVER ALL)
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To: terycarl
No, I'm sorry, but you are not...

No, I'm sorry, I am.

103 posted on 05/10/2016 8:57:29 PM PDT by Mark17 (I traded my shackles for a glorious song. I'm free, praise the Lord, free at last.)
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To: terycarl; StormPrepper; Normandy; teppe
However wonderful that you consider the "navigators", they are hardly Christ's chosen religion.

Don't you wish you had NAMES to drop; like Osteen, Luther, Jim Jones, Koresh...


You are coming off sounding Mormon-like.

They complain about the CREEDS of men being an ABOMINATION; but when a creed IS posted; they can never seem to point out just what is abominable.

108 posted on 05/11/2016 3:27:02 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl; Mark17
No, I'm sorry, but you are not...However wonderful that you consider the "navigators", they are hardly Christ's chosen religion

Nobody ever claimed they were.

Nor did Mark at any time ever represent that they were.

He's talking about leading people to Christ, not the Navigators.

You seem incapable of distinguishing between organizations and people. Which is not surprising.

111 posted on 05/11/2016 3:47:56 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: terycarl
However wonderful that you consider the "navigators", they are hardly Christ's chosen religion

You seem to HATE the Navigators.

You reasons may be valid; but looking over their mission statement, I found the following.

Perhaps you can point out just what is wrong with the numbered items for us.


What The Navigators Believe

The Navigators holds several core beliefs that form the foundation of our ministry.

Our Statement of Faith:

We Believe:

  1. That the Scriptures of the Old and New Testaments are inspired by God and inerrant in the original writings, and that they are of supreme and final authority in faith and life.
  2. In one God, the Creator; eternally existing in three persons: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
  3. That Jesus Christ was begotten by the Holy Spirit and born of the virgin Mary, and that He was and remains true God and true man.
  4. That God created Adam and Eve in the divine image; that they sinned, and thereby incurred not only physical death but also spiritual death, which is separation from God; and that, as a result of Adam's sin, all human beings are now born with a sinful nature and stand guilty before God.
  5. That the Lord Jesus Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, as a representative and substitutionary sacrifice; and that all who believe in Him are justified on the ground of His shed blood.
  6. In the resurrection of the crucified body of our Lord, in His ascension into Heaven, and in His present life there for us, as High Priest and Advocate.
  7. In the blessed hope of the personal and imminent return of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.
  8. That all who by faith receive the Lord Jesus Christ are born again of the Holy Spirit and thereby become children of God.
  9. That the Holy Spirit indwells and gives spiritual life to all believers, enables them to understand biblical truth, empowers them for godly living, and equips them for service and witness.
  10. In the bodily resurrection of the just and unjust, the everlasting blessedness of the saved, and the everlasting punishment of the lost.

232 posted on 05/14/2016 6:48:53 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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