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To: terycarl
However wonderful that you consider the "navigators", they are hardly Christ's chosen religion

You seem to HATE the Navigators.

You reasons may be valid; but looking over their mission statement, I found the following.

Perhaps you can point out just what is wrong with the numbered items for us.


What The Navigators Believe

The Navigators holds several core beliefs that form the foundation of our ministry.

Our Statement of Faith:

We Believe:

  1. That the Scriptures of the Old and New Testaments are inspired by God and inerrant in the original writings, and that they are of supreme and final authority in faith and life.
  2. In one God, the Creator; eternally existing in three persons: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
  3. That Jesus Christ was begotten by the Holy Spirit and born of the virgin Mary, and that He was and remains true God and true man.
  4. That God created Adam and Eve in the divine image; that they sinned, and thereby incurred not only physical death but also spiritual death, which is separation from God; and that, as a result of Adam's sin, all human beings are now born with a sinful nature and stand guilty before God.
  5. That the Lord Jesus Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, as a representative and substitutionary sacrifice; and that all who believe in Him are justified on the ground of His shed blood.
  6. In the resurrection of the crucified body of our Lord, in His ascension into Heaven, and in His present life there for us, as High Priest and Advocate.
  7. In the blessed hope of the personal and imminent return of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.
  8. That all who by faith receive the Lord Jesus Christ are born again of the Holy Spirit and thereby become children of God.
  9. That the Holy Spirit indwells and gives spiritual life to all believers, enables them to understand biblical truth, empowers them for godly living, and equips them for service and witness.
  10. In the bodily resurrection of the just and unjust, the everlasting blessedness of the saved, and the everlasting punishment of the lost.

232 posted on 05/14/2016 6:48:53 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
Thank you Els. That about sums it up.
What I liked most about them, is their Christian training, in practical Christian living, evangelism and follow up.
We were thoroughly grounded in the Word, and trained in evangelism. In all the years of evangelical activity, I think I have almost every dodge and excuse under the sun.

Some sad things happened to good Navigators that I knew. One was a USAF pilot, killed when his F-100 crashed in 1972. Another was onboard KAL 007, on Sept 1, 1983, though I didn't find out about it till 1985. Another USAF O-2 pilot, and a USAF flight surgeon, both lost their wives at early ages. Good people, but they are with Jesus now, and would rather not come back to earth, even if they had an option, which they don't.

235 posted on 05/14/2016 8:01:07 PM PDT by Mark17 (I traded my shackles for a glorious song. I'm free, praise the Lord, free at last.)
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To: Elsie
I mean, I have about heard every excuse under the sun. 😃😇😇😎
236 posted on 05/14/2016 8:04:04 PM PDT by Mark17 (I traded my shackles for a glorious song. I'm free, praise the Lord, free at last.)
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To: Elsie
You reasons may be valid; but looking over their mission statement, I found the following. Perhaps you can point out just what is wrong with the numbered items for us.

Where does Catholicism differ from those points?

247 posted on 05/16/2016 8:57:07 PM PDT by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVER ALL)
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