Posted on 04/27/2016 8:41:02 AM PDT by Salvation
The second reading from last Sunday’s Mass (5th Sunday of Easter) is very Catholic, and too informative to merely pass up. It presents the Church as rather highly organized and possessed of some of the structures we know today in full form. Granted, some of these structures are in seminal form, but they are there.
We will also notice qualities of the original kerygma that are at variance with what some modern thinkers declare should be the methodology of the Church. The soft Christianity of those who replace the cross with a pillow and who insist on solely inclusion and affirmation is strangely absent in this early setting.
Let’s look the first reading from the Acts of the Apostles (Acts 14:21-27) and see there the true path of priests, teachers, and leaders in the Church. Four steps are prescribed for our consideration, by noting that they went forth announcing, admonishing, appointing, and accounting.
I. Announcing – The text says, After Paul and Barnabas had proclaimed the good news to that city and made a considerable number of disciples …
Notice that the happiness is linked to the harvest. By proclaiming the Good News, they yield a great harvest. As Catholics, we are not sent out merely to proclaim a list of duties; we are sent to proclaim the Gospel. And the Gospel is this: God so loved the world that He sent his Son, who by dying and rising from the dead has purchased for us a whole new life, free from sin and the rebellious obsessions of this world. He is victorious over all the death-directed drives of this world. Simply put, he has triumphed over these forces and enabled us to walk in newness of life.
God save us from brands of the faith in which rules and obligations are all that is heard by sour-faced saints, dead disciples, fussy Pharisees, bored believers, and frozen chosen. Save us from Pharisaical philosophers who are obsessed with particulars not even commanded by God, who sneer at things they consider beneath than their preferences.
No, we are sent to announce a new life, a life free from the bondage of sin, rebellion, sensuality, greed, lust, domination, and revenge. We are sent to announce a life of joy, confidence, purity, chastity, generosity, and devotion to the truth rooted in Love.
Yes, here is a joyful announcement rooted in the cry Anastasis (Resurrection)! New Life! The old order of sin is gone and a new life of freedom from sin is here!
Did everyone accept this as good news? No. Some, indeed many, were offended and sought to convict Christians as “disturbers of the peace.” Some don’t like to have their sin and bondage called out as such. They prefer bondage, sin, and darkness to light, holiness, and freedom.
As Catholics, we announce what is intrinsically good news, and we ought to start sounding like it by proclaiming it with joy. We must proclaim it without the bitterness and anger that are indicative of those who are more interested in winning an argument than in joyfully announcing something wonderful, freeing, and true.
II. Admonishing – The text says, … they returned to Lystra and to Iconium and to Antioch. They strengthened the spirits of the disciples and exhorted them to persevere in the faith, saying, “It is necessary for us to undergo many hardships to enter the kingdom of God.”
Preaching/teaching is a process. You don’t just preach or teach once and then move on; you return and reiterate. Paul and Barnabas are retracing their steps back through towns they have already evangelized. They do not just come, have a tent revival, and move on. They return and, as we shall see, they establish the Church.
Notice what they do:
1. Encourage – They strengthened the spirits of the disciples.
2. Exhort – They exhorted them to persevere in the faith.
3. Explain – They explained by saying, “It is necessary for us to undergo many hardships to enter the kingdom of God.”
Let’s focus especially on the last the point. Paul and Barnabas teach that if you’re not willing to endure the cross, no crown will come your way. If you can’t stand a little disappointment, if you can’t stand being talked about, if you think you should always be up and never down, then I’ve come to remind you: No cross, no crown.
Yes, beware of “cross-less” Christianity. We do have good news to proclaim but there is also the truth that we get to the resurrection and the glory through the cross. There is a test in every testimony, a trial in every triumph. There are demands of discipleship, requirements for renewal, laws of love, and sufferings set forth for Saints.
Good preaching combines the hardship and the happiness in one message. It is a joy to follow in the footsteps of our Lord, who endured hostility, hardship, and the horrors of the cross but still triumphed and showed that the wisdom of this world is foolishness to God. Yes, He caught the wise in their craftiness and showed that the thoughts of the wise in this word are futile (cf 1 Cor 3:20). He made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them (paradoxically) by the cross (cf Col 2:15).
Thus, St. Paul and Barnabas announce the cross, a stumbling block to the Jews and foolishness to the Gentiles (cf 1 Cor 1:23). Many today insist that the Church soft-pedal the cross, that she use honey, not vinegar. No can do. We joyfully announce and uphold the paradox of the cross. We must be willing to be a sign of contradiction to this world, which sees only pleasure and the indulgence of sinful drives as the way forward, which exalts freedom without truth or obedience, and which calls good what God calls sinful.
Too many so-called Christian denominations have adopted the pillow as their image and have a “give the people what they want” mentality. That is 180 degrees out of phase with the cross.
The Catholic Church does not exist to reflect the views of its members, but to reflect the views of its founder and head, Jesus Christ. As He went out to die, Jesus announced the cross without ambiguity, saying, Now is the time for judgment on this world; now the prince of this world will be driven out. And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to me (John 12:31-32).
And so we announce the cross not merely as suffering, but as life, power, and love. By the power of the cross, it is possible to live without sin, to overcome rebellion, pride, lust, and greed; it is possible to learn to forgive and to live the truth in love.
The world will hate us for this. But such hardships, such crosses, are necessary preludes to the hallelujah of Heaven. The Church can do no less than to point to the cross. The center of our faith is a cross not a pillow. And the cross is our only hope (Ave Crux spes unica nostra (Hail, O Cross, our only hope).
Yes, the Church announces the cross and admonishes a world obsessed with pleasure and with passing, fake happiness.
III. Appointing – The text says, They appointed presbyters for them in each church and, with prayer and fasting, commended them to the Lord in whom they had put their faith. Then they traveled through Pisidia and reached Pamphylia. After proclaiming the word at Perga they went down to Attalia.
And thus we see the ordination of priest leaders in every place. “Priest” is just an English mispronunciation of the word “presbyter.” Paul and Barnabas did not simply go about vaguely preaching and then moving on. They established local churches with a structure of authority. The whole Pauline corpus of writings indicates a need to continue oversight of these local churches and to stay in touch with the priest leaders established to lead these local parishes.
Later, St. Paul spoke of the need for this structure in other places when he wrote (to Titus),
This is why I left you in Crete, that you might amend what was defective, and appoint presbyters in every town as I directed you (Titus 1:5).
This appointment was done through the laying on of hands and is called ordination today. It was a way of establishing order and office in the Church to make sure that the work continued and that the Church was governed by order. This is why we call the sacrament involved here the “Sacrament of Holy Orders.”
Note, too, that a critical task for leaders in the Church is to develop and train new leaders. Too many parishes depend on individual charismatic and gifted leaders whose inevitable departure leaves a void, not an ongoing ministry or organization. This should not be so. Good leaders train new leaders.
IV. Accounting – The text says, From there they sailed to Antioch, where they had been commended to the grace of God for the work they had now accomplished. And when they arrived, they called the church together and reported what God had done with them and how he had opened the door of faith to the Gentiles.
Note that Paul and Barnabas are now returning to render an account for what they have done. Accountability is part of a healthy Church. Every priest should render an account to his bishop, every bishop to his metropolitan and to the Pope. Today’s ad limina visits of bishops to the Pope is the way this is done. Further, priests are accountable to their bishop through various mechanisms such as yearly reports and other meetings.
A further background to this text is that Paul and Barnabas are returning to Antioch because it was from there that they were sent forth by the local bishops and priests on this missionary task.
While they were worshiping the Lord and fasting, the Holy Spirit said, “Set apart for me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them.” Then after fasting and praying they laid their hands on them and sent them off (Acts 13:2).
Thus St. Paul was not the lone ranger that some think him to be. He was sent and was accountable.
But when he who had set me apart before I was born, and had called me through his grace, was pleased to reveal his Son to me, in order that I might preach him among the Gentiles, I did not confer with flesh and blood, nor did I go up to Jerusalem to those who were apostles before me, but I went away into Arabia; and again I returned to Damascus. Then after three years I went up to Jerusalem to visit Cephas, and remained with him fifteen days (Gal 1:15-18).
Then after fourteen years I went up again to Jerusalem with Barnabas, taking Titus along with me. I went up by revelation; and I laid before them (but privately before those who were of repute) the gospel which I preach among the Gentiles, lest somehow I should be running or had run in vain (Gal 2:1).
The preacher and teacher must be accountable: For we shall all stand before the judgment seat of God; for it is written, “As I live, says the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall give praise to God.” So each of us shall give account of himself to God (Rom 14:10-12).
And thus we see some paths for priests, preachers, teachers, and leaders. We must announce the Gospel as good news, with joy and confidence. We must admonish a world obsessed with pleasures to embrace the cross as our only hope. We must continue to develop, train, and appoint leaders to follow after us. And we must be accountable to one another.
A nice and quick portrait of some healthy traits for the Church!
There in may be the problem. Let's turn to the word prayer in the New Testament.
proseuchomai is the greek verb for pray.
4336 proseúxomai (from 4314 /prós, "towards, exchange" and 2172/euxomai, "to wish, pray") – properly, to exchange wishes; pray – literally, to interact with the Lord by switching human wishes (ideas) for His wishes as He imparts faith ("divine persuasion"). Accordingly, praying (4336/proseuxomai) is closely inter-connected with 4102 /pístis ("faith") in the NT. HELPS Word studies
First you refute things *I* didn't say, then you refute things "idols and statues" didn't say.
This is not the way to conduct a discussion. To do this, you have to engage with what the other person actually said.
AND both parties have to agree to defined terms. Please define and distinguish "adoration" and "veneration." Debater's courtesy: I'm giving you the first dibs on that.
The idols and statues say otherwise.
Oh, fer cryin' out loud, ealgeone!! Idols and statues don't say anything. Surely you know that!
Yes, I know idols don't speak. You misunderstood the context of what I was saying. Allow me to clarify.
Roman catholicism has turned her into a goddess as evidenced by the statues/idols of Mary and the prayers to her and the reliance upon Mary for salvation.
I’ve given up on this issue. All anyone would have to do is ask a Catholic if they worship Mary if they wanted to find out if Catholics worship Mary. But that’s never enough somehow, as if Catholics would have some reason to lie about it or something. Why would a Christian disbelieve another Christian on this? It’s not that hard. So what does it say about the folks who don’t take Catholics word for it?
Freegards
Would you say the same about Mormonism?
Christ wants us to build our faith in Him. If someone's beliefs are counter to His teachings we are to correct those.
Paul provides a pretty good example of this.
From etymology online
pray (v.) early 13c., "ask earnestly, beg," also (c. 1300) "pray to a god or saint," from Old French preier "to pray" (c.900, Modern French prier), from Vulgar Latin *precare (also source of Italian pregare), from Latin precari "ask earnestly, beg, entreat," from *prex (plural preces, genitive precis) "prayer, request, entreaty," from PIE root *prek- "to ask, request, entreat" (cognates: Sanskrit prasna-, Avestan frashna- "question;" Old Church Slavonic prositi, Lithuanian prasyti "to ask, beg;" Old High German frahen, German fragen, Old English fricgan "to ask" a question).
That encompasses the wider meaning more accurately. In Shakespeare's "Comedy of Errors" (Act 2, Scene 2) when the character says to the man who struck him,
"I pray, sir, why am I beaten?"
he is not adoring the man, nor is he exchanging wishes with him. He is urgently asking him a question. That's all.
That illustrates a wider usage than your Greek lexicon suggests.
Your comment: “No. The Scriptures referring to the Church record the actions of bishops and elders and deacons and apostles. Not priests - except Jewish and pagan.”
In other passages it’s clear that although men called presbuteroi ruled over individual congregations (parishes), the apostles ordained certain men, giving them authority over multiple congregations (dioceses), each with its own presbyters. These were endowed with the power to ordain additional presbyters as needed to shepherd the flock and carry on the work of the gospel. Titus and Timothy were two of those early episcopoi and clearly were above the office of presbuteros. They had the authority to select, ordain, and govern other presbyters, as is evidenced by Paul’s instructions: “This is why I left you in Crete . . . that you might appoint elders in every town as I directed you” (Ti 1:5; cf. 1 Tm 5:17-22).
Priests (presbuteroi) are also known as “presbyters” or “elders.” In fact, the English term “priest” is simply a contraction of the Greek word presbuteros. They have the responsibility of teaching, governing, and providing the sacraments in a given congregation (1 Tim. 5:17; Jas. 5:14–15
As the following quotations illustrate, the early Church Fathers recognized all three offices and regarded them as essential to the Church’s structure. Especially significant are the letters of Ignatius, Bishop of Antioch, who traveled from his home city to Rome, where he was executed around A.D. 110. On the way he wrote letters to the churches he passed. Each of these churches possessed the same threefold ministry. Without this threefold ministry, Ignatius said, a group cannot be called a church.
Ignatius of Antioch
“Now, therefore, it has been my privilege to see you in the person of your God-inspired bishop, Damas; and in the persons of your worthy presbyters, Bassus and Apollonius; and my fellow-servant, the deacon, Zotion. What a delight is his company! For he is subject to the bishop as to the grace of God, and to the presbytery as to the law of Jesus Christ” (Letter to the Magnesians 2 [A.D. 110]).
James 5: Prayer of faith13 Is anyone among you suffering? Let him pray. Is anyone cheerful? Let him sing praise. 14 Is anyone among you sick? Let him call for the elders of the church, and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord. 15 And the prayer of faith will save the one who is sick, and the Lord will raise him up. And if he has committed sins, he will be forgiven. 16 Therefore, confess your sins to one another and pray for one another, that you may be healed.
You cannot help yourself, can you! Deception is at the heart of the religion called catholiciism. It must gave deception in order to squelch The Scriptural Truths and allow for the heresies that have inveigled over the centuries. The above citation of James, WITH THE FALSE CHANGE TO SUPPORT A PRISTHOOD is an average example of how deception reigns in that 'other religion'.
I assure you, if I adored someone, I would not dither and dissimulate about it. Good God, I would sound the bagpipes, thump the bodhran and lead the parade! Come, fellow creatures! Let us all worship the One God, the Most Blessed Trinity!
To l large extent, I write for the lurkers. A fellow FReeper told my husband that she had been received into the Catholic Church last year (Easter 2015) partly under my small influence. I knew nothing about at at the time, but it gave me reason to be rather wonderingly happy heartwise, all the same.
How utterly deadsoul brainwhshed, to support the false priesthood ... but I forgot, catholiciism is not Christianity so any change is warranted by the religion called Catholicism, even repeated deceptions like you just made, asserting that Jesus instituting The Lord’s Table is Jesus installing a priesthood! Amazing deadsoul twist that.
I will not call you disingenuous. When you pray to someone who is dead your are exhibiting a form of worship if you attribute to that departed being such god-like powers as hearing millions and millions of prayers simultaneously. You know that and it is precisely how catholics worship Mary. So you are far more than merely disingenuous. Your religion is polytheistic at its heart, not Christianity.
Christians worship the Trinity. They can’t worship anything else and be Christians, right? So when Christians say Catholics worship Mary, they are saying Catholics aren’t really Christians. Like right here on this thread.
I mean come on, Catholics aren’t Christians? Mouth breathing stuff. Maybe it does the lurkers good. I don’t know.
Freegards
Those prayers rise to GOD, not the catholic Mary or the catholic appointed ‘saints’. But we understand why you don’t know such a simple thing yet try to use a passage out of context.
You know this isn't true. This misidentification of Mary as a goddess is consistently refused by Catholics, and is explicitly forbidden by the prophets of Israel, the Gospels, the Fathers of the Church, the Catechism --- by all Catholic doctrine.
I must again invite you to distinguish between adoration and veneration. Define your terms. If you won't do that --- a precondition to productive discussion --- then this will just be wasted effort on both of our parts, wheel-spinning, fishtailing on the ice. Without definitions, it's impossible for words to get traction.
Would you say the same about Mormonism?
I know very little about Mormonism, and really don’t have a desire to learn more. I wish them peace in the Lord as much as I wish it for anyone else.
Being a Catholic does not equate one-to-one with being a Christian. I’m sure there are Christians in the catholic institution, but there are even Christians in Mormonism. And as with catholiciism, these drifting in the institution of catholiciism did not become Christians via Mormonism, or a particular baptism, or a particular fealty to sacraments.
At least you know about the Anointing of the Sick.
Yes Jesus commanded the Catholic church to Preach and Baptize all nations. As the Church grew it would be natural to provide help to the Bishops for individual parishes and the practice was followed from early Catholic times and mentioned by early Church Fathers.
So exact wording is important to you, but you still do not accept the words of Our Lord in the Eucharist.
“... but I forgot, catholiciism is not Christianity”
Whatever pal. Good luck with this.
Freegards
You spittled out, “Yes Jesus commanded the Catholic church to Preach and Baptize all nations.” That is the standard catholic deception conflating your religion’s institutional structure with The body of Christ made up of all believers born from above. Jesus did not give ANY instructions to your religion. Your magicsteeringthem has fabricated that lie from conflation.
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