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1 posted on 04/15/2016 8:01:05 PM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

TRANSLATION: Submit to the Mooslims.


2 posted on 04/15/2016 8:06:04 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it." --Samuel Clemens)
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So we should just have absorbed the Pearl Harbor attack and sued for peace?


3 posted on 04/15/2016 8:07:11 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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Pacifists are just evil.

Some things are worth fighting for. One might benefit from reading the Bible — it is full of wars that served a good cause.

I’m still waiting for Francis to crack open that book and learn a thing or two.


4 posted on 04/15/2016 8:11:17 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Harvey Dent -- can he be trusted?)
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When the Islamic barbarian hordes start crashing on the Vatican’s gates, a different tune will be sung.


5 posted on 04/15/2016 8:11:49 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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I guess the Christians remaining in the Middle East now realize they have no advocate in Francis.

When Jesus had to select a leader for His apostles, He chose the one who, while imperfect, drew a sword and used it when they came to arrest Him. Decades later, that same man opted to be crucified upside down as he was unfit to die in the same manner as Jesus. In the meantime, gentle John the Beloved received his own reward - as the only apostle to be spared a martyr’s death.


6 posted on 04/15/2016 8:19:13 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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This new doctrine by the church should be seen in the context of the century long effort by The Frankfurt School to undermine and even discredit the institutions which hold Western representative democracies together.

We have seen them attack the family, the role of the father in the family, our educational institution from K through postgraduate universities, our churches now in the Vatican and for years in the national Council Of Churches on the Protestant side, our military, our commitment to the Constitution, our respect for the Founding and Framing Fathers, etc.

Beyond undermining the institutions which will undermine our government and our government's capacity to resist statism and militant Islam, these forces also seek to undermine our capacity to think. This goes beyond undermining our morale, this is an attack on our epistemology. The critical theory is telling us that everything we believe and trust, including the gospel of Christ, cannot be trusted. When we cannot trust our God, when we cannot trust our faith, when we cannot trust anything we believe, our culture and our governing system disintegrate and the path is open to the onrush of socialist nirvana (or statist dystopia).

We are now being told that we cannot make war to defend ourselves, not even a "just" war. The doctrine will be belittled and ignored but the bad seed is planted for a bitter harvest, the attack on our morale begins in this new sphere, the reckoning will come with the next generations.


7 posted on 04/15/2016 8:22:03 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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no just war doctrine, no Vatican


8 posted on 04/15/2016 8:26:56 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born, they're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 -- 43 BCE))
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The pope is now pro genocide.

Jesus affirmed the great faith that of roman soldiers to prevent the deadly false piety of this pope.

Thank God for warriors


9 posted on 04/15/2016 8:28:30 PM PDT by lonestar67 (Trump is anti-conservative / Cruz 2016)
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FWIW, paragraph 2309 of the Catechism of the Catholic Church re: "just war doctrine"...

"The strict conditions for legitimate defense by military force require rigorous consideration. The gravity of such a decision makes it subject to rigorous conditions of moral legitimacy. At one and the same time:

a) the damage inflicted by the aggressor on the nation or community of nations must be lasting, grave, and certain;

b)all other means of putting an end to it must have been shown to be impractical or ineffective;

c)there must be serious prospects of success;

d)the use of arms must not produce evils and disorders graver than the evil to be eliminated. The power of modern means of destruction weighs very heavily in evaluating this condition.

These are the traditional elements enumerated in what is called the "just war" doctrine. The evaluation of these conditions for moral legitimacy belongs to the prudential judgment of those who have responsibility for the common good."

10 posted on 04/15/2016 8:41:00 PM PDT by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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Ahhh, the usual gang of peace creep suspects. Under Francis, these sharks are smelling the Church's blood in the water and moving in for the kill.

God please send us an actually CATHOLIC pope and soon!

11 posted on 04/15/2016 8:48:51 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society: Rack 'em Danno!)
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But the participants called for the church to no longer use or teach “just war” theory, for the church to instead develop a new peacemaking framework “consistent with Gospel nonviolence,” and for Francis to articulate it all in a new encyclical.

Or what?

15 posted on 04/15/2016 8:55:45 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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Ya....we’ll wait until Islam has been slaughtering Christians for another 400 years before we decide it’s time to fight back.

Worked ok last time.


17 posted on 04/15/2016 9:40:24 PM PDT by G Larry (ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS impose SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL Immigrants.)
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Pacifism is a heresy, and will never be taught by the Catholic Church.


18 posted on 04/15/2016 10:03:47 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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Participants at a conference versus The Magesterium of the Catholic Church

Hmmmm.

20 posted on 04/15/2016 10:21:49 PM PDT by Slyfox (When someone tells it like it is, is it the truth?)
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Conference attendees called for a new way of thinking 'consistent with Gospel nonviolence'

What Gospel nonviolence?

Is the famous biblical confrontation with the moneychangers at the temple now considered "non-violent?"

21 posted on 04/16/2016 1:18:43 AM PDT by publius911 (IMPEACH HIM NOW evil, stupid, insane ignorant or just clueless, doesn't matter!)
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Kill ‘em all, Let God sort ‘em out........


24 posted on 04/16/2016 4:03:30 AM PDT by njslim
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Pope Benedict didn't die, he was forced out in a power play so that the social justice warrior "liberation theology" cardinals and bishops could install Pope Marx, who has an important role to play in bringing on global socialism.


25 posted on 04/16/2016 4:38:09 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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Be a shame if something happened to this Pope....


27 posted on 04/16/2016 4:49:21 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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In other words, submit to the unjust aggressor, I.E. mooslimbs. Bow down in abject obeisance to the subhumans. The church is under the control of the left and has abandoned its mission.


28 posted on 04/16/2016 4:52:05 AM PDT by I want the USA back (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. Orwell.)
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“War and violence are never means used by God in order to achieve a result. They are for the most part machinations of the devil used to achieve unlawful ends. We say “for the most part” because, as is well known, in a few specific cases the Orthodox Church forgives an armed defense against oppression and violence. However, as a rule, peaceful resolution of differences and peaceful cooperation are more pleasing to God and more beneficial to humankind.”

Patriarch Bartholomew; Address in Novi Sad, Serbia on October 22, 1999


30 posted on 04/16/2016 5:12:17 AM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen and you, O death, are annihilated!)
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