Are you kidding? Many of you protestants seem to think that you're already saved, even before their final judgement by Christ. The sin of presumption.
Are you kidding? Many of you protestants seem to think that you're already saved, even before their final judgement by Christ. The sin of presumption.
The only thing we presume is that His words to us are true and that we can trust in His promises.
1“Do not let your heart be troubled; believe in God, believe also in Me. 2“In My Father’s house are many dwelling places; if it were not so, I would have told you; for I go to prepare a place for you. 3“If I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself, that where I am, there you may be also. 4“And you know the way where I am going.” 5Thomas said to Him, “Lord, we do not know where You are going, how do we know the way?” 6Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me. John 14:1-6
The question is....do you trust in Him?
I *AM* already saved. I have already been judged.
Jesus said so here....
John 5:24 Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life.
The Judgment Seat of Christ is for rewards given to believers whose sins have already been forgiven. They were forgiven here on earth.
We enter heaven and Christ evaluates what we have done for Him and gives us rewards for faithful service.
The Judgment seat before God is for people to be judged by their works as they chose to do when they rejected Christ and decided they'd rather depend on what they do to get into heaven.
And their works WILL damn them.
The sin of presumption.
Could you give us a chapter and verse on where the sin of presumption is listed by God as a sin?
Believing God when He promises something isn’t being presumptuous, it’s being wise and showing faith, that you believe that what God told us is true.
1 Thess 1:9 For they themselves relate of us, what manner of entering in we had unto you; and how you turned to God from idols, to serve the living and true God. 10 And to wait for his Son from heaven (whom he raised up from the dead,) Jesus, who hath delivered us from the wrath to come.
Now before you spittle out some haughty effort at insult, try reasoning out why Paul put that in the past tense for the Thessalonians. This is the same epistle in which he will detail the Rapture of the True Church, the Body of Christ, The Bride of Christ, over in chapter four.
ALL of you Catholics are taught that you're NEVER saved, until your final judgement by Christ.