The Bergoglio-Lombardi diabolical disorientation

Vox Cantors ^ | 2/19/2016 | Vox Cantors

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When Pope Benedict XVI mused during an aeroplane interview about a male prostitute using a condom to prevent AIDS it was a theoretical proposition suited to a seminary lecture on moral theology and stating it was an error.

The story of Paul VI granting permission for nuns in the Congo to use an oral contraceptive because they might become pregnant if raped is exactly that, a story. It was recorded in a book. There is no evidence he allowed it or ordered it and even if he did, it was not then and is not now, magisterial teaching.

The above being said and out of the way. Federico Lombardi, S.J. has now tried to spin a few things from yesterday's ridiculous interview with Jorge Bergoglio, Pope of Rome, and the world's anti-Catholic media. LifeSiteNews has the full report.

Lombardi is now affirming that Bergoglio was indeed speaking about the use of contraceptives for the Zika virus.

If this is true, then Lombardi is a corrupt and evil man. His duty as a Catholic priest was to advise the Bishop of Rome that he would not report such a scandalous affirmation and then promptly resign.

We are in a grave crisis unknown since Arius.

My brothers and sisters in Christ. Do not abandon your faith. Do not abandon our Holy Mother, the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church. Do not flirt with sedevacantism, or the Orthodox who are schismatic. Abandon these monsters in clerical clothing but do not abandon our Mother.

Fight friends.

We were born for this!

Prayer of St. Clement Mary Hofbauer

O my Redeemer,

will that dreadful time ever come,

when but few Christians shall be left

who are inspired by the spirit of faith,

that time when Thine anger shall be provoked

and Thy protection shall be take away from us?

Have our vices and our evil lives

irrevocably moved Thy justice to take vengeance,

perhaps this very day,

upon Thy children?

O Thou, the beginning and end of our faith,

we conjure Thee,

in the bitterness of our contrite and humbled hearts,

not to suffer the fair light of faith

to be extinguished in us.

Remember Thy mercies of old,

turn Thine eyes in mercy upon the vineyard

planted by Thine own right hand,

and watered by the sweat of the Apostles,

by the precious blood of countless Martyrs

and by the tears of so many sincere penitents,

and made fruitful by the prayers

of so many Confessors and innocent Virgins.

O divine Mediator,

look upon those zealous souls

who raise their hearts to Thee

and pray ceaselessly

for the maintenance of that most precious gift of Thine,

the true faith.

We beseech Thee,

O God of justice,

to hold back the decree of our rejection,

and to turn away Thine eyes from our vices

and regard instead the adorable Blood

shed upon the Cross,

which purchased our salvation

and daily intercedes for us upon our altars.

Ah, keep us safe in the true Catholic and Roman faith.

Let sickness afflict us,

vexations waste us,

misfortunes overwhelm us!

But preserve in us Thy holy faith;

for if we are rich with this precious gift,

we shall gladly endure every sorrow,

and nothing shall ever be able to change our happiness.

On the other hand,

without this great treasure of faith,

our unhappiness would be unspeakable and without limit!

O good Jesus, author of our faith,

preserve it untainted within us;

keep us safe in the bark of Peter,

faithful and obedient to his successor

and Thy Vicar here on earth,

that so the unity of Holy Church may be maintained,

holiness fostered,

the Holy See protected in freedom,

and the Church universal extended

to the benefit of souls.

O Jesus, author of our faith,

humble and convert the enemies of Thy Church;

grant true peace

and concord to all Christian kings and princes

and to all believers;

strengthen and preserve us in Thy holy service,

so that we may live in Thee and die in Thee.

O Jesus, author of our faith,

let me live for Thee and die for Thee.

Amen.

[Dr. Sivana]

This should probably be in Catholic Caucus

[Bigg Red]

Amen!

[Arthur McGowan]

It is unlikely that you will ever read an article on this subject that is not totally muddle-headed.

It is not a sin for a male (prostitute or not) to use a condom, because when a male has “sex” with a male, it is IMPOSSIBLE to “contracept.” When a male/female couple use any form of birth control, they are committing a species of sodomy, but a male having “sex” with another male does not commit an ADDITIONAL sin by using a condom. Such a person is engaging in sodomy, which is a mortal sin—but he is NOT committing an additional sin by using a condom. BXVI was exactly correct.

IF—IF—Paul VI ever got involved in the issue of the nuns in the Congo, permitting them to take The Pill was perfectly correct, because GETTING RAPED IS NOT VOLUNTARY.

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I have no idea if the Congolese nuns actually asked for anything much less an abortifacient. If they did ask for the pill...

I don’t get it. Seems like an abortifacient is an abortifacient? Can you take an abortifacient after a rape? Can you take an abortifacient before certain rape? Can you take an abortifacient before a likely rape? And yes, this is horrible, horrible stuff to be thinking about, God bless them no matter what happened.

Freegards

[Arthur McGowan]

It appears that the story is false.

It was not widely known at the time that the Pill was abortifacient. And the Pill in 1960 was LESS likely to be abortifacient, because the hormone dosage was much higher at that time.

With the knowledge they had at the time, taking the Pill would have been morally permissible. Doing so was NOT practicing contraception.

The case of the nuns, whether it happened or not, is totally irrelevant to what the Pope was proposing.

YES, the modern Pill is very much an abortifacient.

Thus, we have a Pope who has suggested that women can cause an abortion because there is a danger their child is defective. AND we have a Pope who has proposed using contraception to prevent the conception of such a child.

But who said we didn’t have an idiot for a Pope at the present time? And “idiot” is the most charitable interpretation of what he is up to.

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IF--IF--Paul VI ever got involved in the issue of the nuns in the Congo, permitting them to take The Pill was perfectly correct, because GETTING RAPED IS NOT VOLUNTARY.

You are wrong. The Pill can act as an abortifacient.

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With the typically half-horrified and half-snarky tone, the reporterette of La Repubblica has to write that the Vatican is in fact unwavering in its position on contraceptives, even in the case of rape. The inhumanity! She quotes the then vice-director of the Press Office of the Holy See, Fr. Piero Pennacchini. His words:

"The Holy See never issued texts authorizing women religious to make use of contraceptives, even if they run the risk of being raped". "I know of no official document by the Holy See on this".

It's not an urban legend, it's a LIE: Paul VI did NOT give permission to nuns to use contraceptives.

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Most of the older “high-dose” birth prevention pills functioned
mainly by inhibiting ovulation and affecting the cervical mucus,
making them primarily two-fold in function.

Sometimes, however, breakthrough ovulation occurred, and so
the older pills were occasionally abortifacient in their
actions.

http://www.armyofgod.com/contraception3.html