Posted on 02/11/2016 7:13:28 PM PST by Armen Hareyan
There was a man in the Old Testament whose name was Jonah. God told him to do something, but he run away and thought he could hide from the presence of God. Then God commanded a big fish to swallow him. Miraculously, he survived in the belly of the fish for three days. During these three days he did three things:
The Scripture says âAnd the Lord commanded the fish, and it vomited Jonah onto dry landâ (Jonah 1:10).
This is our story: Your story and my story. This is the story of our generation too. We believe in God, but run away from his commandments. Continue reading the rest.
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God never told us we had a free will.
That’s man’s idea.
Another way to look at it is that, no matter how sinful and unworthy we consider another, God still wants us to minister to him with God’s Word in the hope that he many be saved - we do God a disservice when we sneer down at the “really unworthy scum”....we overstep when we think we can decide which of His children do not reach Heaven.
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God does give us a choice to either accept or reject HIM.
That is a FACT.
I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live: / That thou mayest love the LORD thy God, and that thou mayest obey his voice, and that thou mayest cleave unto him: for he is thy life, and the length of thy days: that thou mayest dwell in the land which the LORD sware unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give them.Beings with no free will would never have choices set before them. Also, Jesus would never have had to die for the sins of humanity, if they had no free will to control their actions one way or another.
Deuteronomy 30:19-20
If we do not have free will, then what is the point of judgement day? On what will we be judged?
Good one.
That is NOT free will.
They answered him, "We are Abraham's descendants and have never been slaves of anyone. How can you say that we shall be set free?" Jesus replied, "Very truly I tell you, everyone who sins is a slave to sin."
Romans 6:15-18 What then? Shall we sin because we are not under the law but under grace? By no means! Don't you know that when you offer yourselves to someone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one you obey-whether you are slaves to sin, which leads to death, or to obedience, which leads to righteousness? But thanks be to God that, though you used to be slaves to sin, you have come to obey from your heart the pattern of teaching that has now claimed your allegiance. You have been set free from sin and have become slaves to righteousness.
We have no ability in ourselves to choose for God. We can't come to God unless the Holy Spirit enlightens us and draws us.
Man will be judged on the sin he commits if he chooses to depend on something besides Jesus for salvation.
Judgment Day must happen because God must judge sin.
"Are men free to choose this or that form of society for themselves? By no means. Assume a particular state of development in the productive forces of man and you will get a particular form of commerce and consumption. Assume a particular stage of development in production, commerce and consumption and you will have a corresponding social structure, a corresponding organization of the family, of orders or of classes, in a word, a corresponding civil society. Presuppose a particular civil society and you will get particular political conditions which are only the official expression of civil society."That is who is presuming that mankind has no free will.
Karl Marx
For those who think we do have free will even when God enables us to choose.
The only FREE moral agent in the universe is God. He's the only one who can act without any outside influence working on Him.
Sure we have will. It just isn't free.
We can't even begin to know God without Him quickening us, without His intervention.
We are spiritually dead so spiritual truths are non-existent to us. We cannot perceive them because we don't have the capability to. The spiritual part of us that was created to perceive spiritual reality died.
No one can perceive what they are unequipped to perceive. Blind can't see light, deaf can't hear sound, spiritually dead cannot perceive spiritual reality.
So we are not free to choose because without help we CAN'T. We are not FREE moral agents acting without outside influence.
You can quote Marx to support your position. I'll quote Scripture.
Scripture does not support that view in any way, shape or form, or else mankind could not choose good or evil and hence no individual could ever be judged by his/her deeds; and again, Jesus' sacrifice would not even have been necessary.
The only FREE moral agent in the universe is God
PS. That is malicious removal of context by quoting Philippians 2:13 alone, especially when 2:12 admonishes the believer to “work out your own salvation with fear and trembling”, emphasizing the believer’s role in the free moral choice, and 2:14 admonishes to act “without murmurings and disputings”, further illustrating the presence of free moral agency in the human(s) in question since it was still possible to fall into such sinful ways.
Furthermore, to claim that man has no free moral agency gives credence to other godless liberal claims, particularly that homosexuals were “born that way” and unable to change.
“Man will be judged on the sin he commits if he chooses to depend on something besides Jesus for salvation.”
“CHOOSES” by your own admission you admit FREEWILL choice!
Exodus 20:3 King James Version (KJV)
3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
This is choice which one do you choose? Your Calvinism is showing hard tonight.
“The only FREE moral agent in the universe is God. He’s the only one who can act without any outside influence working on Him.”
Food for thought... Can God make a mountain that he cannot move?
No, because man does not have the capability to choose God without God’s intervention in his life.
Man could only have free will if he could choose God without God having a role in that choice.
âCHOOSESâ
You said that... your own words. Now your are running from your comments.
Grace is a free gift from God. He calls us to his Son Jesus Christ, but we must accept or deny.
Are you saying that you never said YES Lord come into my life and I accept you as my Lord and Savior?
I denied God’s calling for many years and finally accepted it and haven’t looked back since.
Negates FREE will.
We are not FREE. Scripture makes it clear we are either slaves to sin or slaves to God.
We can only choose when God enables us to. Without God's intervention, we cannot and will not choose God because we are slaves to sin and cannot do otherwise.
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