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To: Syncro; The Cuban

You might want to take this up with the Orthodox Church.

Why? If an Orthodox church member wants to debate this, I need to be pinged.

If they are as wrong about these issues as Catholicism is that is their problem.

Take a look at My last post if you want to see the scriptural take on marriage.


I did see your scriptural take on marriage. That’s why I wrote that you might want to take it up with the Orthodox Church. They have a scriptural take that is in accord with what Scripture says. You can see it at following link:

http://www.stgeorgegreenville.org/OurFaith/Feasts%20for%20Theotokos/Entry%20to%20Temple.html

On second thought, maybe it would be better if you didn’t see the Orthodox teachings. They might make your head spin.

I really don’t think that Scripture provides sufficient information to definitively say whether Mary did have other children or did not have other children.

There are several hints one way or another, but I do not find anywhere is Scripture that explicitly states that Mary conceived, gave birth to, or was the mother of anyone other than Jesus. Nor does Scripture explicitly say that anyone other than Jesus was the son of Mary.

Conversely, nowhere in Scripture does it explicitly say that Mary did not have other children.

There is one thing I have wondered. When the angel Gabriel told Mary that she shalt conceive in her womb, and bring forth a son, she asked; How shall this be, seeing I know not a man? Presumably, she was asking how she shall conceive. Why would she ask this if she and Joseph planned to have children?


2,252 posted on 01/13/2016 4:59:03 PM PST by rwa265
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To: rwa265

Take a look at My last post if you want to see the scriptural take on marriage.


I did see your scriptural take on marriage

No you didn't. If you read the scriptures you saw God's take on marriage.

I try to be clear with my words to they aren't taken in a different way than they are stated.

I've had the strangest "interpretations" of my statements on this thread and it is truly bizarre in some instances.

There, got that out of the way...

They have a scriptural take that is in accord with what Scripture says. You can see it at following link:

Well hopefully it is, that would be refreshing compared to what Catholicism teaches.

Thanks for the link, but I will have to study the Orthodox positions at another time.

The next time I see my old friend that is a Bishop, priest or whatever his title is (he wears the traditional black dress like garment) in the Orthodox church I shall sit down with him and get the perspective one on one.

They might make your head spin.

I doubt that.

I have spent years studying the various religions and denominations and if Catholicism can't get my head spinning nothing can!

The other children is a moot point to the point that I have been making, ie Mary and Joseph had a real marriage, blessed by God.

That is confirmed by scripture.

Check This Link and take whichever translation you trust to see what God's plan for Joseph and Mary was concerning the marriage bed in their lives.

King James Bible Matthew 1:25
And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.

If you pray for the Holy Spirit's guidance, any translation will work as He will bring the truth to your heart.

There is one thing I have wondered. When the angel Gabriel told Mary that she shalt conceive in her womb, and bring forth a son, she asked; How shall this be, seeing I know not a man? Presumably, she was asking how she shall conceive.

Makes sense to me. Although quite young, Mary seemed to have some knowledge of the mechanics involved.

Why would she ask this if she and Joseph planned to have children?

Why would you assume that they had gotten to that part of their relationship? They were what we call engaged, but in their day that was part of the marriage contract, which could not be gotten out of without a divorce.

So as the question is presumptive, I see no need to answer it.

So I imagine you will keep on wondering. Thanks for the reply.

2,259 posted on 01/13/2016 5:42:42 PM PST by Syncro (Jesus Christ, the same today, yesterday, and forever!--Holy Bible Quote)
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To: rwa265
Presumably, she was asking how she shall conceive. <>Why would she ask this if she and Joseph planned to have children?

Isn't it fun to speculate over things that are unrecorded?

Our little human minds can conjure up all KINDS of scenerios!


Myself; I like to look at any and all evidence provided...

18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.

2,350 posted on 01/14/2016 5:05:53 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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