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To: rwa265

Take a look at My last post if you want to see the scriptural take on marriage.


I did see your scriptural take on marriage

No you didn't. If you read the scriptures you saw God's take on marriage.

I try to be clear with my words to they aren't taken in a different way than they are stated.

I've had the strangest "interpretations" of my statements on this thread and it is truly bizarre in some instances.

There, got that out of the way...

They have a scriptural take that is in accord with what Scripture says. You can see it at following link:

Well hopefully it is, that would be refreshing compared to what Catholicism teaches.

Thanks for the link, but I will have to study the Orthodox positions at another time.

The next time I see my old friend that is a Bishop, priest or whatever his title is (he wears the traditional black dress like garment) in the Orthodox church I shall sit down with him and get the perspective one on one.

They might make your head spin.

I doubt that.

I have spent years studying the various religions and denominations and if Catholicism can't get my head spinning nothing can!

The other children is a moot point to the point that I have been making, ie Mary and Joseph had a real marriage, blessed by God.

That is confirmed by scripture.

Check This Link and take whichever translation you trust to see what God's plan for Joseph and Mary was concerning the marriage bed in their lives.

King James Bible Matthew 1:25
And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.

If you pray for the Holy Spirit's guidance, any translation will work as He will bring the truth to your heart.

There is one thing I have wondered. When the angel Gabriel told Mary that she shalt conceive in her womb, and bring forth a son, she asked; How shall this be, seeing I know not a man? Presumably, she was asking how she shall conceive.

Makes sense to me. Although quite young, Mary seemed to have some knowledge of the mechanics involved.

Why would she ask this if she and Joseph planned to have children?

Why would you assume that they had gotten to that part of their relationship? They were what we call engaged, but in their day that was part of the marriage contract, which could not be gotten out of without a divorce.

So as the question is presumptive, I see no need to answer it.

So I imagine you will keep on wondering. Thanks for the reply.

2,259 posted on 01/13/2016 5:42:42 PM PST by Syncro (Jesus Christ, the same today, yesterday, and forever!--Holy Bible Quote)
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To: Syncro

If you don’t want to deal with the explanation at the link right now, fine. But one really needs to read it to understand what Catholics believe.

http://www.stgeorgegreenville.org/OurFaith/Feasts%20for%20Theotokos/Entry%20to%20Temple.html

Regarding Gabriel’s announcement to Mary. He said ‘thou shalt conceive.’ She said ‘how shalt this be, seeing I know not a man.’ This makes sense if she intended to remain a virgin. Like you said, she seemed to have some knowledge of the mechanics involved. She would want to know how she could possibly conceive if she remained a virgin.

But how does it make sense if she did not intend to remain a virgin?


2,433 posted on 01/14/2016 1:31:27 PM PST by rwa265
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