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1 posted on 12/11/2015 2:00:41 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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IF any of these things are true about the Bible, are they not also true of the Quran(Koran), The Torah, etc. ?


2 posted on 12/11/2015 2:17:53 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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Of the many copies and fragments of manuscripts we have available we find a very, very high degree of accuracy between them.

I think we can have a very, very high degree of confidence we have the original words as originally written.

3 posted on 12/11/2015 2:18:47 PM PST by ealgeone
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What good is it to say that the autographs (i.e., the originals) were inspired? We don't have the originals! We have only error-ridden copies, and the vast majority of these are centuries removed from the originals and different from them . . . in thousands of ways.

If Ehrman is correct, then he has uncovered the single thread that would unravel the entire garment of the Christian faith. There is no need to critique the content of the New Testament if we don't even have the New Testament.

This is why it is fundamental to have one holy catholic apostolic church from the First Century until this hour.

6 posted on 12/11/2015 2:41:07 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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> “We have only error-ridden copies”

Let’s see a professional third party unbiased exposition os said errors because to my knowledge the conformance of scripture is remarkably preserved, so much so that it is a testament to divine inspiration.


7 posted on 12/11/2015 2:48:22 PM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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If an error occurred early enough there is no guarantee that any of the manuscripts has the original reading--and if one does, how do we know which one? Most if not all of the variants do not involve any major point of belief.

What is the right reading in Luke 2.14: eudokias (genitive) or eudokia (nominative)? This is the origin of the difference between the Catholic and Protestant translations. Is it "peace among human beings of good will (eudokias)" or "peace, good will among human beings (eudokia)"?

Both versions have the support of many early manuscripts as well as from quotations in the Church Fathers.

8 posted on 12/11/2015 2:51:00 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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If an error occurred early enough there is no guarantee that any of the manuscripts has the original reading--and if one does, how do we know which one? Most if not all of the variants do not involve any major point of belief.

What is the right reading in Luke 2.14: eudokias (genitive) or eudokia (nominative)? This is the origin of the difference between the Catholic and Protestant translations. Is it "peace among human beings of good will (eudokias)" or "peace, good will among human beings (eudokia)"?

Both versions have the support of many early manuscripts as well as from quotations in the Church Fathers.

9 posted on 12/11/2015 2:51:00 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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This article is quackery. Here is a good explanation of how we know the New Testament is reliable for example.
10 posted on 12/11/2015 2:55:41 PM PST by AndyTheBear
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11 posted on 12/11/2015 2:55:53 PM PST by sauropod (I am His and He is mine.)
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I would not trust Bart Erhman... at all.


15 posted on 12/11/2015 3:13:15 PM PST by ColdSteelTalon (Light is fading to shadow, and casting its shroud over all we have known...)
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You want the authentic Bible? The real thing? It’s the King James Bible!


18 posted on 12/11/2015 4:36:58 PM PST by Jack023
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Meaning to offence, but God our Loving Father knew that all of this would happen: misspellings, doctrine changes etc.

So he gave it to his Son, Jesus to say: “But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you.” John 14:26

Without the Holy Spirit, not a single word of the Holy Scriptures can ever be understood. Is there any wonder that no one can agree.

The Spirit brings the Holy Scriptures to Life


20 posted on 12/11/2015 6:03:07 PM PST by BornToBeAmerican (Dont forget Love)
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This is perfectly on topic. With a little Star Wars thrown in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpFHfHXicNs


26 posted on 12/11/2015 8:33:11 PM PST by CraigEsq
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Sad to say, but Bart Ehrman has given abundant evidence, not just here but also voluminously elsewhere, that he is subject, at present, to Jesus' forewarning of eventual doom, because of his persistent strenuous efforts to talk Christians into renouncing their faith and to dissuade non-Christians from believing:

"But if anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a large millstone hung around his neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea." (Matthew 18:6; also Mark 9:42, Luke 17:2)

32 posted on 12/12/2015 10:26:38 AM PST by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God IS, and (2) God IS GOOD?)
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39 posted on 12/13/2015 2:36:21 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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