Skip to comments.How do you square your Christian faith with hatred of Muslims? (VANITY)
Posted on 12/09/2015 10:22:15 PM PST by hoagy62
As one looks at the articles and comments found on Free Republic, you can see the complete and utter loathing, disgust, and outright hatred towards Muslims. It is viewed as a justified hatred, built on the actions Muslims have taken for decades against Americans and others. Notable attacks include the Beirut bombing of the Marine barracks, Beslan in Russia, the recent San Bernadino attack, and of course 9/11.
However, I was challenged by a few friends recently as to how a professing Christian can have a deep-seated hatred for Muslims. They reminded me of Jesus' command to love one another. They pointed out that He wasn't just talking about Christians loving other Christians (which can be difficult sometimes), but about Christians loving people in their communities...even those one may count as an enemy.
It's been pointed out to me that Christ's death on the cross wasn't just for me...it was also for the Muslim. He wants them to come to know Him as their Savior just as much as He wants us...or me...to. The problem they see is that someone won't want to come to know Christ if those who say they're His followers are in your face telling you that they hate you.
When I point out to them about the danger that Muslims have time and time again posed to society, they argue that Jesus didn't care if they were dangerous- He wanted His followers to love them, And, if that love had an element of risk associated with it, His followers were to love them anyway. A reminder of what that looks like can be seen in the story of the Christian men who ended up martyred by the Auca tribe in South America.
In any case, what they said is making me think. I want to know how one can reconcile a hatred for Muslims with Jesus' command to love people. It does seem that you can't do one and do the other as well. Yes...I am aware I may very well be opening up a huge can of worms, but this has been bugging me and I wanted to discuss it with my fellow FReepers.
First I don’t have to hate you to put a bullet through you IF you come to kill my family.
Second to be honest I DO hate anyone who tries to kill the innocent.
The Premise: Christians hate muslims.
Premise is false.
Christians are defending themselves from being killed by muslims.
So many are operating on false inflammatory premises at this time that it’s just getting ridiculous.
GET THIS STRAIGHT: CHRISTIANS ARE DEFENDING THEMSELVES AGAINST LETTING PEOPLE IN HERE THAT WANT TO KILL THEM.
Pure and simple.
Cut the crap!
Moslem is not a religon, it is a satanic cult. It’s not hate in me, it is survival of my babies and grand babies. I am charged by God with the task of providing and protecting.
I’m not a Christian but I don’t hate muslims I just want them dead.
They wanted me dead first so I have no ethical problem with that.
One can hate them as one hated Nazis. We wish them dead only because they are a threat. What made them a threat was their false ideas, which led them to do awful things.
In spite of the morally relativistic age we live in I think we should still try that and hope to gain momentum in doing so. This is my opening shot in that direction...
Is Islam a religion at all?
What Islam is...
Islam was founded by a psychotic murdering terrorist. He told his followers that to follow him and his god they had to be psychotic murdering terrorists. He wrote a book about how to be a psychotic murdering terrorist in order to be a faithful muslim.
How is that a legitimate religion in any sense of the word?
Many fail to discern the difference of what a human does versus the potential of what he/she is meant to be, should one choose.
Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one. For I say unto you, that this that is written must yet be accomplished in me, And he was reckoned among the transgressors: for the things concerning me have an end. And they said, Lord, behold, here are two swords. And he said unto them, It is enough.Notice that the disciples think He is speaking literally, and tell Jesus they already have two swords. This is problematic. Are two swords enough to defend the disciples against all the enemies they will eventually face? Nope. And later that night, Peter will use one of those swords to cut off the ear of one of their enemies, and what will Jesus do? He heals His enemy's ear. So when Jesus says "It is enough," He probably is not saying they are enough, the two literal swords. Linguistically, it is just as likely He is saying something more like, we're done talking for now.
Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.We also know He said that the one who lives by the sword will die by the sword. If we rely on the weapons of human might to defend us against our spiritual enemy, we are not equipped to win that fight. Paul says we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities and powers in high places. Yes, we have a duty to protect our families, and sometimes that will involve lethal force. But it is a last resort. The real battle is with the prince of darkness and his minions.
how? well... i believe in tradition.
a broadsword... full plate... a shield... and a strong horse.
Islam definitely combines the finest parts of nazism, warlordism with a claim of spiritual beliefs. To some limited extent, it can be considered a religion, but it is more than that, as you know. For that reason, because it is not just a view about the cosmos, but about what to do to other people, including us, then it must be met head on as an ideology as well. When we fought communism, we didn't just war with it, we engaged it intellectually, and, in spite of the left, got the better of the argument among those with half a brain. Very few pretend to argue that Marx got it right any more. Similarly with Hitler or Mussolini or Tojo. Their ideologies are in the dustbin. That's where we need to put Islam. While killing off as many of the radical ones who are currently attacking our civilization as possible.
We love (AGAPE) our fellow man.
We respect legitimate authority.
Islam rejects both in order to place Islam ahead of all others and the worship of a god who rejects perfect justice to have peace with man.
Any system of worship failing to repect the integrity of God and what He has provided, produces a counterfeit substitute for God’s Plan. Islam counterfeits God with Allah, speaks of Jesus Christ as being a good man, but denies His Deity. If Jesus Christ is not also God the Son, then he wasn’t a good man.
Jesus Christ also provided the Perfect Sacrifice to God the Father to allow man to return to God based upon both perfect righteousness of God and His Plan, as well as accepting God’s Perfect Justice in His condemnation of sin.
Jesus Christ also in His humanity, was resurrected, and later ascended to heaven as was witnessed and recorded by all of Creation. Islam fails to address these facts and ignores them.
Believers in God have faith through Christ and love our fellow man as our brethern, so don’t want to see them condemned to the Lake of Fire, but want to witness to them about the good news of what Christ provided at the Cross.
We also know that placing pearls before swine will likely incite them to hate us more than to come to Christ.
Muslims lead soulish lives, without regenerated human spirits. The same happened to all Christians prior to their faith in Christ. So we don’t hate them as our feloow man, but we do hate their slander, murder, liars, and promotion of anything false when truth is made available to them.
When Muslims take action against our God given rights, and plan to deny our rights, they are criminals to our divinely established institution of governance. They also have a right to their system of governance. Our governments might war with one another, but their usurpence of legitimate authority doesn’t justify their actions or thinking.
They should be opposed and controlled to preserve justice and righteous governance.
Thank you. That was just distilling it down to its simplest form based on its origins. Each point is provable beyond any question. There are many more barbaric tenets that could be added each one bolstered by citing Muhammad’s personal participation.
Strip it of its pretense of being a legitimate religion or spiritual tradition then debate its merits as an ideology.
I do not hate rabid dogs.
Just know to keep a safe distance.
If there were mooslimbs during His time, he probably would have made exceptions.
I have no doubt that if Islam predated scripture, it would contain warnings about Islam and the wrath muslims would incur from God and His people.
Hear some more
So, you’re saying the answer to a Jim Jones style death cult that has enthralled a billion people is love and compassion?
But let’s speak a bit of truth here; the most likely next victim of a Muslim is yet another Muslim. A car bomb at a wedding, a suicide bomber in a market, random gunning down on the street, or the ever popular cutting off of the head.
And to make things more interesting, 70% of Muslims agree that someone who leaves their cult deserves whatever happens to them.
I’m all for showing compassion and love for a murderer once they are behind bars. When they’re in the middle of a killing spree, don’t you think that the almighty would prefer that you take steps to defend the helpless rather than line up to be the next victim?
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.