Posted on 10/24/2015 7:50:37 AM PDT by umpqua
You are a wise man. I only know it because I just read about the song while confirming that I had my facts straight before posting.
16? Wouldn’t that be rape by the pimp and all the young girl’s “clients”? I wouldn’t be so sure she’s burning in hell. She may have repented before hand.
Just about all of us deserve hell for something.
You might want to Google “most misquoted verse of the Bible.”
The Bible instructs us to judge from cover to cover. Its the whole point.
Nicely played
Just about a All of us deserve hell for something.
"For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God."
5 It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, and of a kind that even pagans do not tolerate: A man is sleeping with his father’s wife. 2 And you are proud! Shouldn’t you rather have gone into mourning and have put out of your fellowship the man who has been doing this? 3 For my part, even though I am not physically present, I am with you in spirit. As one who is present with you in this way, I have already passed judgment in the name of our Lord Jesus on the one who has been doing this.
Infants don’t sin. Although afflicted with original sin when born, they are completely sinless when baptized and therefore are not deserving of hell in any positive sense. I thought through my statement before I posted it. I don’t think you did.
I stand by Romans 3:23
We are not to be hypocritical. When we've removed the beam from our own eye, then we can remove the splinter in our brothers. (Matthew 7:5) We can and should judge "righteous judgement". (John 7:24)
The John 8 story is often misunderstood. The woman was alegedy guilty of adultery, but the law had to be followed to the letter. See Leviticus 20:10ff. Both the adulterer and adulteress are to be put to death. Since she was caught in the very act (John 8:3), where was the man? Where were the accusers? Were they sinless IN THIS MATTER? (Obviously not, since the man was absent and the witnesses were caught in criminal misconduct which would have resulted in their stoning--such is the penalty for bring a false charge.)
She may have gotten saved since then. Stranger things have happened.
We just talked about this verse in church and Sunday school. I think it was in class where the pastor said something like “Yeah - I wonder if what Jesus wrote in the dirt was ‘Where’s the guy?’” But yes - showed the duplicitous nature of the Pharasee’s question (it’s a trap!).
I told my wife - “Aren’t you glad I kept quiet and didn’t tell my joke?” “So Jesus says ‘You who without sin cast the first stone.’ Then this big rock comes sailing in and bonks the woman right in the head. Jesus looks over - “Mom!!!”
LOL’s
Video: Islamic State stones woman to death for adultery
She begs for forgiveness (samahni), the iman asks father to forgive her (samiha) and her father refuses (la), so the imam goes ahead with the stoning in which her father participates.
Discuss the issues all you want but do not make it personal.
That has always been my view of the text.
I couldn’t resist. :)
So do I. The problem is you think it applies to even infants then in the strictest sense when that is clearly not the case.
It is true that adultery/prostitution are damnable sins. Yet in this woman's individual case, you don't know whether she repented on the last day, in the last hour, at the last moment, or how God sees her individual soul. Burning in hell? You don't know this for a fact. What presumption.
Our role is not to render a verdict which it is not ours to give, but to pray for her.
Interestingly, the only One with the legitimate right to throw the stone, doesn’t.
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